I thought it was a pull-up on the turn signal lever to sound the horn, not a
push in when you have to quickly sound the horn and not a push down that
could more easily happen by accident??----- Original Message -----
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To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:35 PM
Subject: [Peugeot-L] Digest Number 1745
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> 1. 1985 505S Wagon Horn Problem
> From: "wiggibear97301" <wiggibear@hotmail.com>
> 2. Re: 1985 505S Wagon Horn Problem
> From: "M Aube" <maube@idirect.com>
> 3. re Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup (or Trap?)
> From: "David Towle" <davidtowle@mail.com>
> 4. RE: re Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup (or Trap?)
> From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
> 5. Re: Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup
> From: "hugo_steincamp" <hsteincamp@hotmail.com>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 20:06:07 -0000
> From: "wiggibear97301" <wiggibear@hotmail.com>
> Subject: 1985 505S Wagon Horn Problem
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>
> Hello everyone, I am getting my newly acquired 1985 505S Wagon XN6 up
> and running, and after I install the starter, it will be running
> again. Here is my most pressing problem...when I try to honk the horn
> by pushing in the turn signal handle, the light for the ignition key
> turns on, not the horn. Does this mean a simple turn signal switch,
> or some wiring somewhere else?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Chris in Salem, Oregon
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:29:59 -0500
> From: "M Aube" <maube@idirect.com>
> Subject: Re: 1985 505S Wagon Horn Problem
>
> Install your starter and make sure you have good positive and ground
> connections, then try the horn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wiggibear97301" <wiggibear@hotmail.com>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:06 PM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 1985 505S Wagon Horn Problem
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> > Hello everyone, I am getting my newly acquired 1985 505S Wagon XN6 up
> > and running, and after I install the starter, it will be running
> > again. Here is my most pressing problem...when I try to honk the horn
> > by pushing in the turn signal handle, the light for the ignition key
> > turns on, not the horn. Does this mean a simple turn signal switch,
> > or some wiring somewhere else?
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Chris in Salem, Oregon
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:21:18 +0400
> From: "David Towle" <davidtowle@mail.com>
> Subject: re Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup (or Trap?)
>
> Sounds more to me like PSA has been lured into a trap. They think if
Renault and Carlos Ghosn can rescue a fat mismanaged Japanese car company
then they can too. But they don't have a genius like Carlos that I've ever
heard of.
>
> Could be the end of PSA by the time its done. DC at least had the brains
to bail out before they were sucked dry. It'll be interesting to watch what
happens.
>
> Dave Towle
>
> > Subject: Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup
> >
> >
> > Details are sketchy at the moment, but the following is known at this
> > point:
> >
> > 1. PSA and Mitsubishi will cooperate on the building of 4 wheeled
> > vehicles, most notably, SUVs.
> >
> > 2. PSA will invest a considerable amount of money in Mitsubishi.
> > This appears to be in the 2 billion dollar region.
> >
> > 3. PSA and Mitsubishi will cooperate on the design and building of a
> > new line of cars.
> >
> > Folz, the Chairman of PSA, travels to Tokyo next week to sign an
> > agreement.
> >
> > My speculation is Peugeot returns to the USA. SUVs are overwhelmingly
> > American. Why would PSA sign an agreement of this nature unless they
> > were returning to the major SUV market? My hunch is that PSA will
> > supply bodies and Mitsubishi will supply engines and do assemblies at
> > the plant in Illinois which is very underutilized.
> >
> > Stay tuned for more details as they become available.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:02:41 -0800
> From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
> Subject: RE: re Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup (or Trap?)
>
> Mitsu fell into their own trap. They were much more aggressive and
> long-term on their zero down, zero interest deal.
>
> They've done a LOUSY job of branding. What does Mitsubishi mean? What
> do you think of when someone says Mitsubishi?
>
> Some people know of the daring VR4 hotrods of the early 90s. Some
> people know of the Eclipse and Spyder. But their marketing is almost as
> bad as Infiniti's.
>
> That coupled with a general lackluster lineup spelled disaster on the
> showroom floor.
>
> I don't think M-B was in a position to change that.
>
> One thing is for sure, I'd rather trust Peugeot's ability to craft a
> brand than Mitsubishi. Although we all know how far Peugeot must go to
> regain their trust with the American buyer. If Hyundai can come back
> from the dead, then surely a well known, historically significant
> carmaker such as Peugeot can.
>
> Too bad PSA eviscerated Citroen. Citroen has some sexy proven
> technology and designs that seem gone from today's offerings. Peugeot
> needs "the vision thing"...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Towle [mailto:davidtowle@mail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:21 PM
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] re Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup (or Trap?)
>
>
>
> Sounds more to me like PSA has been lured into a trap. They think if
> Renault and Carlos Ghosn can rescue a fat mismanaged Japanese car
> company then they can too. But they don't have a genius like Carlos
> that I've ever heard of.
>
> Could be the end of PSA by the time its done. DC at least had the
> brains to bail out before they were sucked dry. It'll be interesting to
> watch what happens.
>
> Dave Towle
>
>
>
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> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 18:20:20 -0000
> From: "hugo_steincamp" <hsteincamp@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Peugeot-Mitsubishi Tieup
>
>
> Thanks for posting this. SUVs have growing market share in Europe,
> so PSA is interested in protecting its market in Europe by having
> SUVs to sell. But the ability to offer an SUV in North America would
> make a US return more likely. Apparently, Peugeot conducted a market
> survey in US a few years ago and part of the study was devoted to the
> consumer's view of a Peugeot SUV. They've also made a SUV concept,
> based on the 206.
>
> Hugo
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "lenra24" <lenra24@a...> wrote:
> >
> > Details are sketchy at the moment, but the following is known at
> this
> > point:
> >
> > 1. PSA and Mitsubishi will cooperate on the building of 4 wheeled
> > vehicles, most notably, SUVs.
> >
> > 2. PSA will invest a considerable amount of money in Mitsubishi.
> > This appears to be in the 2 billion dollar region.
> >
> > 3. PSA and Mitsubishi will cooperate on the design and building of
> a
> > new line of cars.
> >
> > Folz, the Chairman of PSA, travels to Tokyo next week to sign an
> > agreement.
> >
> > My speculation is Peugeot returns to the USA. SUVs are
> overwhelmingly
> > American. Why would PSA sign an agreement of this nature unless
> they
> > were returning to the major SUV market? My hunch is that PSA will
> > supply bodies and Mitsubishi will supply engines and do assemblies
> at
> > the plant in Illinois which is very underutilized.
> >
> > Stay tuned for more details as they become available.
>
>
>
>
>
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