Two things that caught my attention.
"> Ford and Chrysler transaxles that go TU after 90K miles are just
unacceptable. These guys INVENTED the automatic transmission!"
It is unacceptable but it was RENAULT who invented both manual and
automatic transmissions on a car.
"> None of this however, explains why PSA doesn't have the stones to
come back to this market. Hell, they never had a better lineup to
do it with than now."
PSA won't copy mistake made by Nissan, Saab and Volvo. They hang in
the US markets no matter costs and they all have been taken
into 'custody' by a bigger player namely Renault for Nissan, GM for
Saab and Ford for Volvo. PSA will return if they see right
time/opportunity. For example this 'surrender monkey' and 'freedom
fries' attitudes towards french won't make them come back any
Onsooner...
Also best Peugeots at the moment are diesel powered and I have
understood that diesel in N.A. with high sulphur doesn't fit for
superb HDI engines.
PS. this wasn't meant for anything political. It is just couple of
facts.
Pasi from Finland
405 SRI
309 GT
305 GL
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "N9TE" <Fujitsu@t...> wrote:
>
> I find it "unpatriotic" (as I guess one could fit that term in
this context)
> to subsidize substandard cars.
>
> America has never been a country which required the individual to
take his
> own goodwill and make it subservient to the groups. If I buy a
car that
> will fall apart 7 years after I buy it, I'm doing a disservice to
myself and
> ultimately, the domestic car makers.
>
> The big three did try to sell "entry level cars" and had some
decent
> efforts. In spite of the common perception that the Pinto was
bad, it
> really wasn't. The Ford 2.3 was/is a great engine. The Vega
looked and
> drove great. AMC finally got it right with the Spirit. But, all
three lost
> their way after they got it right with their respective models.
How long
> has the Corolla been around? Instead of refining a model, they
make a new
> one with a pop style, a lot of options and built like crap.
>
> The big three have ALWAYS been about style and upsell. Longevity
is just
> not in their mental toolbox. Spending the extra $500-$2000 per
car to make
> it last for 20+ years seems counterintuitive, but as Toyota and
the imports
> have learned, it's not. And smart upwardly mobile people agree.
People
> that can afford to buy a new Lexus and BMWs aren't idiots. These
are the
> exact same customers that choose to buy an Accord or Celica in
1979 and
> usually clocked 200K+ on it before doing again in 1989 with a
Maxima or
> Mazda 626.
>
> Ford and Chrysler transaxles that go TU after 90K miles are just
> unacceptable. These guys INVENTED the automatic transmission!
The Toyota
> A3xx bulletproof slushbox is a copy of the TH350! They have ONE
MORE SHOT
> at getting things right less they go the way of British
automakers. If my
> cursory inspection of the new Mustang in any indicator, they still
don't get
> it. Looked great, good style, lots of options available (style &
upsell
> remember), but no rustproofing what-so-ever on the undercarriage
of the car.
> Surface rust visible on a brand new car.
>
> It's bad enough that most big-three cars are completely uninspired
in terms
> of technology, but to couple that with poor long-term durability,
makes all
> but a select few poor choices.
>
> I don't think the US should restrict imports, but should hammer on
other
> partner countries to open up their markets. Japan's solution is
wrong in
> spite of their homegrown success stories.
>
> None of this however, explains why PSA doesn't have the stones to
come back
> to this market. Hell, they never had a better lineup to do it
with than
> now.
>
> K o l l
> 87S
>
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