I just dealt with a similar situation on my '79 504. A year or so of wavering needle leading to very loud screeching noises and soon after nothing; no noise, no speedo or odo. I removed the instrument cluster, very easy on a 504. I thought the speedo cable had broken. I gripped the end of the inner cable while driving and couldn't keep it from turning. Obviously the cable was fine. I removed the speedo unit from the cluster to better examine it. Next I looked at the back end of the speedo. Everything looked ok, except when I tried turning the inner part that the speedo cable turned. It was almost seized. I freed it up using a combo of dry lube and thin oil. It turned quietly and smoothly. Probably any thin, penetrating type of lube would work. Using an electric drill with a small common screwdriver bit I got it up to 35mph. It was fine. Before putting everything back together I wanted to try it in the car. I connected the cable and laid the speedo in the cavity where the entire cluster goes and drove off. Mu
ch to my surprise it didn't work. I unscrewed the cable from the speedo to closely examine it. Over the years I've seen a few speedo cables, mostly motorcycles but a few cars. Every one, until this one, had the metal cable end swedged into a rigid square which fit into the speedo. My 504 cable had / has a plastic or nylon square end fused onto the cable. During the year or so of noise and wavering speedo needle the plastic end was subject to alot of stress. When my speedo finally seized up the plastic end became almost round. At this point I thought I'd have to replace the cable. Being lazy and thrifty I decided to fix the cable. I took a short piece of heat shrink tubing, put it over the almost round swedged end, heated it so it would be a tight fit on the cable and have a hard surface on the outside. It still was a bit of a loose fit. I put a second piece of the same size heat shrink tubing over the first, same procedure. It was a nice snug fit into the speedo. Tested it on the car again. Near perfect. Th
e speedo has never run this well since I've had this car. Perhaps a new cable would be even better, but they are hard to find, expensive and a pain to install. I think the lesson here is that the speedo itself needs lubrication every once in a while. BTW mine has 494,000 miles on it; the rotating inner part of the speedo has probably turned millions of times since 1979.
George Kay, Santa Ana CA
1979 504D
1954 203C
- Original Message -----
From: Steve Margolis
To: Peugeot List
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 505 V-6 Odometer/Speedometer Question
Second attempt, first send lost in the ozone.
Peter, Four or five years ago, my speedo stopped working after a long
noisy period and wavering needle. At the time I was working in
Columbus Ohio and The Shop was still going. Ron ordered a new upper
cable from Peugeot and put it in. The next day I headed to upstate NY
and didn't even get to Cleveland before the speedo started howling
and the needle fluctuated wildly - briefly. Then the cable broke and
it was silent. I figured that would be a good excuse if I got
stopped. I had the receipt for the new cable and installation.
Peugeot supplied a new one and paid for the installation under the
parts warranty the second time around. On the next 450 mile trip, I
got about 325 miles when the speedometer started howling and
fluctuating, them it settled down and has been reading three mph high
ever since, with just the slightest of wavering.
Steve
In active service:
'87 505 sti v6 - 5 speed - arrest me red
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Rust in peace:
'86 505 sti - 5 speed - committed suicide
'81 505 tdiesel 5 speed - murdered by a NY State trooper
'80 505 diesel auto - died of a myriad of complications
'79 504 diesel 4 speed - murdered by a mom yelling at
her rear seated miscreants
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