Pasi, I noted in the news about two months ago that US refineries
were investing heavily in equipment to produce low sulphur diesel.
Maybe there is hope for us......
Rob Bast
Hinesburg, Vermont USA
'92mi16
'91mi16
89505v6
57citroen2cv
On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:24 PM, peugeotvoittaja wrote:
> Two things that caught my attention.
>
> "> Ford and Chrysler transaxles that go TU after 90K miles are just
> unacceptable. These guys INVENTED the automatic transmission!"
>
> It is unacceptable but it was RENAULT who invented both manual and
> automatic transmissions on a car.
>
> "> None of this however, explains why PSA doesn't have the stones to
> come back to this market. Hell, they never had a better lineup to
> do it with than now."
>
> PSA won't copy mistake made by Nissan, Saab and Volvo. They hang in
> the US markets no matter costs and they all have been taken
> into 'custody' by a bigger player namely Renault for Nissan, GM for
> Saab and Ford for Volvo. PSA will return if they see right
> time/opportunity. For example this 'surrender monkey' and 'freedom
> fries' attitudes towards french won't make them come back any
> sooner...
>
> Also best Peugeots at the moment are diesel powered and I have
> understood that diesel in N.A. with high sulphur doesn't fit for
> superb HDI engines.
>
> PS. this wasn't meant for anything political. It is just couple of
> facts.
>
> Pasi from Finland
> 405 SRI
> 309 GT
> 305 GL
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "N9TE" <Fujitsu@t...> wrote:
>>
>> I find it "unpatriotic" (as I guess one could fit that term in
> this context)
>> to subsidize substandard cars.
>>
>> America has never been a country which required the individual to
> take his
>> own goodwill and make it subservient to the groups. If I buy a
> car that
>> will fall apart 7 years after I buy it, I'm doing a disservice to
> myself and
>> ultimately, the domestic car makers.
>>
>> The big three did try to sell "entry level cars" and had some
> decent
>> efforts. In spite of the common perception that the Pinto was
> bad, it
>> really wasn't. The Ford 2.3 was/is a great engine. The Vega
> looked and
>> drove great. AMC finally got it right with the Spirit. But, all
> three lost
>> their way after they got it right with their respective models.
> How long
>> has the Corolla been around? Instead of refining a model, they
> make a new
>> one with a pop style, a lot of options and built like crap.
>>
>> The big three have ALWAYS been about style and upsell. Longevity
> is just
>> not in their mental toolbox. Spending the extra $500-$2000 per
> car to make
>> it last for 20+ years seems counterintuitive, but as Toyota and
> the imports
>> have learned, it's not. And smart upwardly mobile people agree.
> People
>> that can afford to buy a new Lexus and BMWs aren't idiots. These
> are the
>> exact same customers that choose to buy an Accord or Celica in
> 1979 and
>> usually clocked 200K+ on it before doing again in 1989 with a
> Maxima or
>> Mazda 626.
>>
>> Ford and Chrysler transaxles that go TU after 90K miles are just
>> unacceptable. These guys INVENTED the automatic transmission!
> The Toyota
>> A3xx bulletproof slushbox is a copy of the TH350! They have ONE
> MORE SHOT
>> at getting things right less they go the way of British
> automakers. If my
>> cursory inspection of the new Mustang in any indicator, they still
> don't get
>> it. Looked great, good style, lots of options available (style &
> upsell
>> remember), but no rustproofing what-so-ever on the undercarriage
> of the car.
>> Surface rust visible on a brand new car.
>>
>> It's bad enough that most big-three cars are completely uninspired
> in terms
>> of technology, but to couple that with poor long-term durability,
> makes all
>> but a select few poor choices.
>>
>> I don't think the US should restrict imports, but should hammer on
> other
>> partner countries to open up their markets. Japan's solution is
> wrong in
>> spite of their homegrown success stories.
>>
>> None of this however, explains why PSA doesn't have the stones to
> come back
>> to this market. Hell, they never had a better lineup to do it
> with than
>> now.
>>
>> K o l l
>> 87S
>>
>
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