I just mentioned it because the marketeers at auto manufactures use
this claim and I realize that if you get hit by a Mack truck in a 3000
pounder, it's all a wash!
Vince
On Jan 23, 2006, at 10:43 PM, Ben Pender wrote:
> Vincent,
>
> More weight *might* improve crash test results. But
> when every car on the road gains weight, its a wash.
> More weight, more structure to absorb the crash
> energy. BUT, there is more crash energy in the first
> place! So, ultimately, its all a wash.
>
> Regards,
> Ben Pender
>
> --- Vincent Anton Stornaiuolo <astrovine@mchsi.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ahhhh... but does more weight result in higher crash
> > test ratings?
> > Important for marketing.
> >
> > V
> > On Jan 23, 2006, at 8:39 AM, Ben Pender wrote:
> >
> > > Dave,
> > >
> > >  Sounds like you made a good choice. However,
> > you
> > > can't argue with my point about weight. Just
> > pick a
> > > car and look how it has become bloated over the
> > years.
> > > First gen Honda Civic? I don't know for sure,
> > but
> > > I'd say it weighed about 1400 pounds or so. The
> > new
> > > Honda Civic? Again I don't know for sure, but
> > it
> > > wouldn't surprise me if it was getting close to
> > 3000#.
> > > Not convinced? First gen VW Golf/Rabbit.Â
> > About
> > > 1700#, A2 Golf-about 2200#, A3 Golf? 2600#,
> > Current
> > > (new) Golf? Again, approaching 3000#.
> > >
> > > Â What was the average weight for the average
> > car 20
> > > years ago? What about 10 years ago? What
> > about now?
> > > In most countries, like the USA, Great Britian,
> > > France, Germany, it has steadily increased.Â
> > Weight is
> > > weight. A ton of feathers weighs the same as a
> > ton of
> > > lead. More plastic and aluminum? Less
> > steel/iron?
> > > Doesn't matter. Cars weigh more now than they
> > ever
> > > have. Period.Â
> > >
> > > Â More weight requires more power to acheive the
> > same
> > > performance. Fortunately, technology has been
> > good
> > > and allowed more efficient engines so that more
> > power
> > > is produced without increased fuel consumption.Â
> > But,
> > > for every gain in efficiency, there has been a
> > penalty
> > > in terms of weight. Can you imagine what kind
> > of
> > > milage you would get with something like a 1.9
> > TDI in
> > > a first gen (A1) Jetta? You probably wouldn't
> > need
> > > the whole 1.9l! You could make the much more
> > > efficient engine something like 1.3l and get
> > > phenomenal milage, much like the VW Polo or
> > something.
> > >
> > > Â Just imagine the fuel efficiency we could be
> > getting
> > > if we kept developing the engine technology, but
> > kept
> > > our cars from becomming big fat, bloated things.
> > > 50mpg in a gasoline car would not be the
> > exception,
> > > but rather the rule by now. But, we're too lazy
> > and
> > > driven by the desire to be stylish for that to
> > happen.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ben Pender
> > >
> > > --- David Owen <d_j_owen2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Â Â As to Ben's comments on toys in the car.
> > The
> > > > materials used in todays cars are much lighter
> > and
> > > > so do not add greatly to the weight, the
> > engines
> > > > produce more power for their size and operate
> > at
> > > > greater efficiency giving more miles to the
> > gallon.
> > > > On my 1.9 TDI the book states 40 mpg round town
> > and
> > > > 60 mpg on a run. On most of the tanks I have
> > put in
> > > > so far the lowest mpg I have acheived is 47.6
> > mpg
> > > > the best 56.3 mpg. This is from a car the same
> > size
> > > > as an Audi A6. I did not opt for SatNav as I
> > could
> > > > not justify £1800 for it and the Leather seats
> > with
> > > > heaters did not appeal to me and again would
> > add to
> > > > the price.
> > > >Â
> > >
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