Re: [Peugeot-L] "Unpatriotic Cars"

From: Alex Zepeda <alex.zepeda_at_gmail.com>
Date: 01/24/06

On 1/21/06, Bill Branch <billbranch1@aim.com> wrote:

> Why can't we offer the Japs the same share of our market as they allow us, as did the > Italians?

Easy. The Americans are trying to compete on price, the Japanese (and Koreans) are competing on quality. The Americans are trying to foist a bunch of crappy cars on us, and hope that cheap prices will make us all look the other way when it breaks down. Sorry, no dice. If American car companies want to compete, it's time they cleaned up their act.

Just take a look at Ford's premier offering: the Ford GT. Nice car, right? Yeah... if you can keep it running. There are TSBs out for all manner of fluid leaks (boy that must be safe to drive ~200mph down the track with it gushing power steering fluid), it's been recalled seven times (minor stuff like suspension components breaking). This is Ford's PREMIER PRODUCT, and they can't even get it right.

Or how about GM? GM has still not really resolved the problem C5 Corvette steering columns locking at will. Last I checked, the Corvette was one of GM's most prestigious vehicles.

When the big three introduce new models (Saturn SL, Neon, Escape, Focus, etc) they set records for the vast number of recalls made. Perhaps they should start THERE before trying to put a lid on this free market stuff. And, really, that's why they're bankrupt the big three have been putting out tripe for about 30 years too long.

> I really hate to hear about patriotism from people driving Toyotas.

And I hate to hear about patriotism from people who bash American made cars. ::rolls eyes::

Of course, I'm quite amused to hear this comming from such a staunch conservative as yourself. What do you propose we do? Mandate that Americans buy American cars (assembled in Mexico or Brazil with Chinese built engines and Japanese gearboxes no less).

Sorry, the American companies need to get their act together. Hell, the big three have such a strangle hold on the NHTSA and DOT. We're one of the few countries (maybe the only) where red turn signals are allowed (namely in the name of cost savings), high beams are okay for DRLs (again, in the name of cost savings), extremely low goals are set for fuel economy, etc... all in the name of cost savings.

Even with various import tarrifs (remember when the Infinity I30 came out shortly after a new tarrif on Jap cars over $30,000 was imposed), the Japanese are doing quite well. Nah.. to level the playing field, you'd have to essentially ban all imports. Even the Koreans are beating the Americans at their own game, and they're doing it with American labour to boot.

Rant about Toyota all you want (even as unfounded as it is), but they're using American labour (unionized too) to build cars not 40 minutes away from me at their NUMI plant (Fremont, CA).

See, to support the big three in the name of being American is to simply put blind faith in trickle down economics (which, of course, Reagan has proven to be a b.s. theory at best). Sure, the American corporations get money, but they'll still move the jobs overseas, they'll still buy overseas products (check out where AC Delco batteries and spark plugs are being made now..... China). Buy a Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, etc, and you'll have at least employed more than simply American management. Geez... Hyundai has invested how much in new design, engineering, and manufacturing facilities in the US?

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alex


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Received on Tue Jan 24 23:49:22 2006