Yeah the only problem is that for sold about 8 cars (the 500's) in all of north america. Quite a drop from the hunderds of thousands of ugly last generation Tauruses, and even uglier previous models.
Thomas
"J. Ashment" <wyofisher@caldsl.com> wrote:
Very true. Although, Ford sure surprised me with its new model 500. Its
quite a car, well designed, well mannered, and roomy. The only American car
I tried that could out handle my 505. If only they could make it rear drive
instead of front. The all wheel drive is a good comprimise though. And the
CVT transmissions does a good job.
Joe
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From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
To: <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] "Unpatriotic Cars"
>I find it "unpatriotic" (as I guess one could fit that term in this
>context)
> to subsidize substandard cars.
>
> America has never been a country which required the individual to take his
> own goodwill and make it subservient to the groups. If I buy a car that
> will fall apart 7 years after I buy it, I'm doing a disservice to myself
> and
> ultimately, the domestic car makers.
>
> The big three did try to sell "entry level cars" and had some decent
> efforts. In spite of the common perception that the Pinto was bad, it
> really wasn't. The Ford 2.3 was/is a great engine. The Vega looked and
> drove great. AMC finally got it right with the Spirit. But, all three
> lost
> their way after they got it right with their respective models. How long
> has the Corolla been around? Instead of refining a model, they make a new
> one with a pop style, a lot of options and built like crap.
>
> The big three have ALWAYS been about style and upsell. Longevity is just
> not in their mental toolbox. Spending the extra $500-$2000 per car to
> make
> it last for 20+ years seems counterintuitive, but as Toyota and the
> imports
> have learned, it's not. And smart upwardly mobile people agree. People
> that can afford to buy a new Lexus and BMWs aren't idiots. These are the
> exact same customers that choose to buy an Accord or Celica in 1979 and
> usually clocked 200K+ on it before doing again in 1989 with a Maxima or
> Mazda 626.
>
> Ford and Chrysler transaxles that go TU after 90K miles are just
> unacceptable. These guys INVENTED the automatic transmission! The Toyota
> A3xx bulletproof slushbox is a copy of the TH350! They have ONE MORE SHOT
> at getting things right less they go the way of British automakers. If my
> cursory inspection of the new Mustang in any indicator, they still don't
> get
> it. Looked great, good style, lots of options available (style & upsell
> remember), but no rustproofing what-so-ever on the undercarriage of the
> car.
> Surface rust visible on a brand new car.
>
> It's bad enough that most big-three cars are completely uninspired in
> terms
> of technology, but to couple that with poor long-term durability, makes
> all
> but a select few poor choices.
>
> I don't think the US should restrict imports, but should hammer on other
> partner countries to open up their markets. Japan's solution is wrong in
> spite of their homegrown success stories.
>
> None of this however, explains why PSA doesn't have the stones to come
> back
> to this market. Hell, they never had a better lineup to do it with than
> now.
>
> K o l l
> 87S
>
>
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