Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: Futility of owning a Peugeot in US

From: Brian White <brian_at_bjwhite.net>
Date: 01/29/06

I'd bet this has more to do with Bosch or Valeo than with Mercedes and Peugeot.

Notice that the top performers, Toyota, use their own electrics....

  • Original Message ----------- From: "hugo_steincamp" <hsteincamp@hotmail.com> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:09:42 -0000 Subject: [Peugeot-L] Re: Futility of owning a Peugeot in US

> Yes, Mercedes seems to be going through a bad patch. In Europe, it
> has more recalls than any other brand. (And is followed by Peugeot,
> which should be scary for Mercedes and comforting for PSA, even
> though it shouldn't be.)
>
> Hugo
> OnOn
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, gary freeman <riven2649@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I have to admit that Lexus is a very reliable product as are all
> the Japanese cars; but, believe me, there's nothing great about BMW
> and Mercedes these days. M3's have been blowing engines quite often,
> and when they first came out with their V8 in the early 90's, they
> had to replace alot of them do to excessive cylinder wear. M-B's
> aren't their old indestructible selves, either. Actually, alot of
> American cars have improved in this area as they had to respond to
> Japanese competition; and most of them are affiliated with a
> Japanese manufacturer.
> >
> > Bill Branch <billbranch1@a...> wrote: Futility? People are
> always giving me lip service about doing my own maintenance and
> small repairs. Then I explain to them that in the one hour or more
> that they've spent at JiffyLube getting their oil changed for
> whatever it costs, I can change mine in my garage for half the price
> with no aggro with having to deal with mental midgets, and at any
> time of day or night. No appointment necessary.
> > Any fifteen year old car is going to have mechanical failures,
> and, the last time I checked, even such vaunted marques as MB,
> Lexus, or BMW have service departments where work other than
> maintenance, viz., repairs, is performed.
> > I've found that most of the money I spend on repairs when I first
> get my Peugeots is spent on undoing what otherwise well-intentioned
> but just plain incompetent "technicians" have done to them. Once my
> cars are fixed properly, then the honeymoon begins, and they don't
> break any more often than Yugos or Volvos.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian White
> > To: James Ma ; Paul Hughes ; peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Futility of owning a Peugeot in US
> >
> >
> > Jeez dude. You can pick up replacement instrument cluster all
> day long on Ebay in the US and
> > Europe. In fact, I had a couple of them when I sold my Mi16.
> >
> > You can take a used instrument cluster, pull the speedo, set
> the mileage and install it into your
> > cluster with relative ease.
> >
> > Sounds like you need to learn how to work on a car yourself...
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message -----------
> > From: James Ma <sjjma@y...>
> > To: Paul Hughes <pjphughes@y...>, peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:10:44 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Futility of owning a Peugeot in US
> >
> > > Cerrone & Sons is my Peugeot mechanic. Tony is the one
> > > who quoted the $530 starter. He can't get a replacement
> > > speedometer for my broken one.
> > >
> > > Cerrone & Sons collected $5K from me last year and would
> > > have collected $6K from me but I declined to powder coat
> > > the Mi15 valve cover.
> >
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