You don't have to tell me about BMW's problems, I was a factory trained BMW tech at a big dealer here in St.Louis before I had to retire. Lots of manufacturers have used various processes to utilize all aluminun cylinders with great success. Some used the public for research and development such as G.M. and the Vega. Don't give me any poor G.M. either as they've been in that habit along time, and they deserve to be where they are today. They represent the heartland-where does the heartland get that they represent America? I would hate to be associated with the ignorance that represents. And why do the German's always get excused? There had been plenty enough experience with aluminum cylinders for BMW to get it right the first time. And how can you say the Japanese engines aren't thoroughbreds like BMW? And what's so wonderful about technology that blows up? German manufacturers have been pushing so much B.S. for so many years about their technical superiority that I'm
enjoying the hell out of their current problems. And what about M-B when the 380's came out, the all aluminum V8, engineered like no other, cost no object, yet they took a timing chain which wrapped under the crank, went up one bank and over that cam, went to an idler in the middle of the V, went up the other bank and over that cam, and back to the crank-quite long, don't you think? Yet in their infinite wisdom, they made it a single row chain. You want to guess how many broke and destroyed engines. Plus you needed a $300.00 plus tool that was a template for tapping the holes for the head bolts in the cheap aluminum the heads were made from. The Porsche 928 also had all aluminum with everything bolted on with steel bolts. The horrible Italians like Alfa Romeo had all aluminum engines for years (their last four cyl. began life in 1954 ), yet everything including the head bolts were studs. Remember, the German's were the bad guys in WWII; so why do we kiss their butts so
much and believe all their hype? And do you know what kind of software problems BMW has been having with their new electronic "marvels" ? By their own admission, they rushed the new 7's to market a year early. I could go on and on with some stories I probably shouldn't reveal, but I an sick and tired of this German superiority crap; and I really don't understand people of German descent in this country who display it and are so proud. What the Nazi's did in WWII is unparalled in all of mankind's history, so what the hell do they have to be proud of- because they're mindless enough to follow anybody.The Infiniti G35 actually was preferred over the BMW M3 in quite a few of the car mags, and slightly outperformed it. What's wrong with that engine? It doesn't self- destruct enough to be a thoroughbred? You want to talk real thoroughbreds, let's talk Italian. And what about Formula One? Who won this year while the Ferrari's were slow and M-B and BMW kept breaking down? And
what about the last time Renault tackled Formula One-they dominated!
Brian White <brian@bjwhite.net> wrote: Come on Gary...the engine in the E46 M3 is quite a throughbread (Lexus doesn't have anything quite
like it) so let's not slam on BMW because they have balls enough to put into production an engine
quite like the E46 M3 6-cylinder. It's a high strung, very high output motor.
Yes, BMW had issues with their first V8s. Do a few searches on the Nikacil vs Alusil engines and
you'll hear tons of it. Old news, and an old argument (like 15 years old now...) Once BMW
changed the metal makeup of the engine blocks, the problem went away...basically related to the
high-sulfur content of the fuel in the United States. (Although, BMW could have done their homework
here, it takes a long time for damage to be done. Who could have known? Especially since BMW
motorcycles have had Nikacil blocks for a long time with US fuels.)
- Original Message -----------
From: gary freeman
To: Bill Branch , peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:36:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Futility of owning a Peugeot in US
> I have to admit that Lexus is a very reliable product as are all the Japanese cars; but,
> believe me, there's nothing great about BMW and Mercedes these days. M3's have been
> blowing engines quite often, and when they first came out with their V8 in the early
> 90's, they had to replace alot of them do to excessive cylinder wear. M-B's aren't their
> old indestructible selves, either. Actually, alot of American cars have improved in this
> area as they had to respond to Japanese competition; and most of them are affiliated with
> a Japanese manufacturer.
>
> Bill Branch wrote: Futility? People are always giving me
> lip service about doing my own maintenance and small repairs. Then I explain to them that
> in the one hour or more that they've spent at JiffyLube getting their oil changed for
> whatever it costs, I can change mine in my garage for half the price with no aggro with
> having to deal with mental midgets, and at any time of day or night. No appointment necessary.
> Any fifteen year old car is going to have mechanical failures, and, the last time I
> checked, even such vaunted marques as MB, Lexus, or BMW have service departments where
> work other than maintenance, viz., repairs, is performed. I've found that most of the
> money I spend on repairs when I first get my Peugeots is spent on undoing what otherwise
> well-intentioned but just plain incompetent "technicians" have done to them. Once my cars
> are fixed properly, then the honeymoon begins, and they don't break any more often than
> Yugos or Volvos.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian White
> To: James Ma ; Paul Hughes ; peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Futility of owning a Peugeot in US
>
>
> Jeez dude. You can pick up replacement instrument cluster all day long on Ebay in the
> US and Europe. In fact, I had a couple of them when I sold my Mi16.
>
> You can take a used instrument cluster, pull the speedo, set the mileage and install
> it into your cluster with relative ease.
>
> Sounds like you need to learn how to work on a car yourself...
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: James Ma
> To: Paul Hughes
, peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:10:44 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Futility of owning a Peugeot in US
>
> > Cerrone & Sons is my Peugeot mechanic. Tony is the one
> > who quoted the $530 starter. He can't get a replacement
> > speedometer for my broken one.
> >
> > Cerrone & Sons collected $5K from me last year and would
> > have collected $6K from me but I declined to powder coat
> > the Mi15 valve cover.
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