[Peugeot-L] 504D 79 Charging Problem

From: chrislee51 <chrislee51_at_comcast.net>
Date: 02/01/06


Maybe I spoke a little too soon when I said "it works fine" regarding my new alternator.

The car in question is my '79 504 Diesel, 4-sp. manual.

The in-dash charging indicator drops down into the red whenever the engine idles with the headlights on, and if any accessories (heater fan, wipers, etc.) are on in addition to the headlights, the indicator drops into the red even with the car at cruising speed, on the freeway.

I swapped in a known good battery from my other 504 and cleaned the battery terminal connections, but there was no improvement.

I measured negligible or zero resistance between the alt body and engine block, alt body and batt -terminal, alt +terminal and batt +terminal, alt +terminal and starter solenoid +terminal, and starter solenoid +terminal and battery +terminal. With the engine at idle, no accessories on, I measured ~15V at alt and 14.7v at batt and the indash  charging indicator read normal. With the engine at idle, all accessories on, I measured ~14.5V at alt and ~13.2V at batt and the indash  charging indicator was into the red. With the engine at 1500rpm, all accessories on, I measured ~15.5V at alt and ~15V at batt, but the in-dash indicator was well into the red. During all these tests, the voltages measured between alt body & engine block, alt body & battery - terminal, and alt +terminal and batt +terminal were all negligible, well under 1V.

It seems to me that the charging system is healthy, but the car was behaving this way when I bought it, and slowly got worse and worse until the alt would not charge the battery even at freeway speeds. I drove it from CA to WA like this. I had to roll-start the car one morning on that trip, because the battery didn't have the juice to turn the engine over. Thankfully, diesels only need electricity to keep the fuel solenoid open and, of course, for accessories and lights.

Anyway, there is obviously something that I need to learn about charging systems. Could my voltage regulator be bad? Or is the indash  thermal voltmeter being a liar? It seemed accurate on that first long trip, doing a good job of telling me that I was not charging my battery!

Thanks for all your suggestions!

Chris Lee
Seattle, WA
'78 504D
'79 504D

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