Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking

From: -Phil- <listacct_at_mindfart.com>
Date: 02/14/06

Yes, This is a well-known problem. I still have my picture article online: http://mindfart.com/peugeot/centrallockbox/

It describes how to take the box apart without cracking the plastic too!

-Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Boyington" <gene@haasinstitute.com> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking

> Right! I knew I was forgetting something! In our case, we were lucky that
> merely cleaning exterior contacts did the trick. It was 7 years ago, and
> memory fades on the details! Didn't someone report in detail about
> soldering
> the internal contacts about 2 months ago?
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Foubister" <rwfoub@telus.net>
> To: <Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
>
>
>> Hi, I also second that motion, I had the same problem with the central
>> locking on my '85 505 wagon. I took the central locking box under the
>> steering wheel to bits and found there was a broken solder joint inside.
>> A
>> quick bit of soldering saw the problem fixed and all doors now locking
>> and
>> unlocking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Thomas Mladenka
>> Sent: February 13, 2006 10:59 PM
>> To: Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
>>
>>
>>
>> I was once helped by a list member (Phil) regarding this problem, so
>> here
> I
>> am passing along his very valuable information that fixed the problem in
> my
>> 505.
>>
>> Phil wrote:
>>
>> I suspect that your problem is actually inside the box. Sounds like a
>> cold
>> solder joint. (common) The act of messing with the connector is just
>> putting stress on the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) and causing it to make
> or
>> break the bad connection. The little male connector blades have no
>> mechanical mount to the PCB other than by solder, so eventually with
> thermal
>>
>> cycling and vibration they will fail. This is yet another example of
>> Peugeot's (or their suppliers) electrical engineering blunders. They
> design
>>
>> a good circuit, but have little regard for the mechanical systems that
> make
>> the electronics work.
>>
>> That connector is the same style as the "problematic" connectors under
>> the
>> hood, but the underdash location is devoid of water and the other
> elements,
>> so it is reliable. (unless you somehow got water under your dash!)
>>
>> Here are some pictures I took of one the units I had inside and out:
>> http://mindfart.com/peugeot/centrallockbox/
>>
>> -Phil
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dan Midtdal" <midvally@shaw.ca>
>> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] central locking problems
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thomas:
>> > Before you go to the extent of pulling things apart, try what I did for
> my
>>
>> > '86 505 TD, I simply removed the connector from the black box under the
>> > steering column, cleaned both pins and sockets with a mild abrasive and
>> > reconnected the two and Voila! I found the problem quite by accident,
>> > like a pigeon pecking at various dots to figure out where the grain was
>> > coming from. I wiggled the connector a few times and got a faint pulse
>> > from the master door lock and I jumped on it. It actually took several
>> > tries to get it to work consistently.
>> > Good Luck,
>> > Dan
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Thomas Mladenka
>> > To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:49 PM
>> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] central locking problems
>> >
>> >
>> > Does anyone know where the central locking relay is located on an '86
> 505
>>
>> > S TD? All of my power door locks including the fuel door/trunk don't
> work.
>>
>> > I thought that it might be a relay since everything doesn't work. Any
>> > ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > '86 505 S TD
>>
>> suprx1546 <cjcoppo@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I recently purchased a 505 GL wagon. I turned the key in the drivers
> door
>> tonight and the
>> central locking has stopped working. The lock plunger comes up when the
> key
>> is turned,
>> but the lock button won't stay up, nor can I open the drivers door. Have
>> any of you Peugeot
>> owners
>> had to fix this before? Any advice would be appreciated. It is a very
> nice
>> car with only 53k
>> miles. The folks at work think I'm a loon for driving an old French car,
>> I'd hate for them to
>> see me getting in or out of the passenger side door!!:)
>> Thank you, Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
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