Phil,
Now I've looked at all 12 of the photos really carefully. I get all of it!
Except! What about that annoying fuse? If that is gone, is there any
replacement, or do we just swap the whole unit from a donor (or new)?
Gene
- Original Message -----
From: "(-Phil-)" <listacct@mindfart.com>
To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>; "Gene Boyington" <gene@haasinstitute.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
> Yes, This is a well-known problem. I still have my picture article
online:
> http://mindfart.com/peugeot/centrallockbox/
>
> It describes how to take the box apart without cracking the plastic too!
>
> -Phil
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Boyington" <gene@haasinstitute.com>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
>
>
> > Right! I knew I was forgetting something! In our case, we were lucky
that
> > merely cleaning exterior contacts did the trick. It was 7 years ago, and
> > memory fades on the details! Didn't someone report in detail about
> > soldering
> > the internal contacts about 2 months ago?
> >
> > Gene
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Foubister" <rwfoub@telus.net>
> > To: <Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
> >
> >
> >> Hi, I also second that motion, I had the same problem with the central
> >> locking on my '85 505 wagon. I took the central locking box under the
> >> steering wheel to bits and found there was a broken solder joint
inside.
> >> A
> >> quick bit of soldering saw the problem fixed and all doors now locking
> >> and
> >> unlocking.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Thomas Mladenka
> >> Sent: February 13, 2006 10:59 PM
> >> To: Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 1986 505 central locking
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I was once helped by a list member (Phil) regarding this problem, so
> >> here
> > I
> >> am passing along his very valuable information that fixed the problem
in
> > my
> >> 505.
> >>
> >> Phil wrote:
> >>
> >> I suspect that your problem is actually inside the box. Sounds like
a
> >> cold
> >> solder joint. (common) The act of messing with the connector is just
> >> putting stress on the PCB (Printed Circuit Board) and causing it to
make
> > or
> >> break the bad connection. The little male connector blades have no
> >> mechanical mount to the PCB other than by solder, so eventually with
> > thermal
> >>
> >> cycling and vibration they will fail. This is yet another example of
> >> Peugeot's (or their suppliers) electrical engineering blunders. They
> > design
> >>
> >> a good circuit, but have little regard for the mechanical systems that
> > make
> >> the electronics work.
> >>
> >> That connector is the same style as the "problematic" connectors under
> >> the
> >> hood, but the underdash location is devoid of water and the other
> > elements,
> >> so it is reliable. (unless you somehow got water under your dash!)
> >>
> >> Here are some pictures I took of one the units I had inside and out:
> >> http://mindfart.com/peugeot/centrallockbox/
> >>
> >> -Phil
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dan Midtdal" <midvally@shaw.ca>
> >> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:12 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] central locking problems
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thomas:
> >> > Before you go to the extent of pulling things apart, try what I did
for
> > my
> >>
> >> > '86 505 TD, I simply removed the connector from the black box under
the
> >> > steering column, cleaned both pins and sockets with a mild abrasive
and
> >> > reconnected the two and Voila! I found the problem quite by
accident,
> >> > like a pigeon pecking at various dots to figure out where the grain
was
> >> > coming from. I wiggled the connector a few times and got a faint
pulse
> >> > from the master door lock and I jumped on it. It actually took
several
> >> > tries to get it to work consistently.
> >> > Good Luck,
> >> > Dan
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Thomas Mladenka
> >> > To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:49 PM
> >> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] central locking problems
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know where the central locking relay is located on an
'86
> > 505
> >>
> >> > S TD? All of my power door locks including the fuel door/trunk don't
> > work.
> >>
> >> > I thought that it might be a relay since everything doesn't work. Any
> >> > ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> > Thomas
> >> >
> >> > '86 505 S TD
> >>
> >> suprx1546 <cjcoppo@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> I recently purchased a 505 GL wagon. I turned the key in the drivers
> > door
> >> tonight and the
> >> central locking has stopped working. The lock plunger comes up when
the
> > key
> >> is turned,
> >> but the lock button won't stay up, nor can I open the drivers door.
Have
> >> any of you Peugeot
> >> owners
> >> had to fix this before? Any advice would be appreciated. It is a very
> > nice
> >> car with only 53k
> >> miles. The folks at work think I'm a loon for driving an old French
car,
> >> I'd hate for them to
> >> see me getting in or out of the passenger side door!!:)
> >> Thank you, Chris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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