- peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. Re: VOTING YES FOR YAHOO
> From: august <august.macbeth@gmail.com>
> 2. Re: VOTING YES FOR YAHOO
> From: "David Towle" <davidtowle@mail.com>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:51:37 -0800
> From: august <august.macbeth@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: VOTING YES FOR YAHOO
>
> think of how many thousands of times our email
> addresses have been
> posted on Jim Lill's peugeot-L list archives on the
> web (and we all
> know how well crawled those things are!). I think
> that's a huge
> contributor of spam.
>
> if you ask me, its 2006, and spam is just part of
> the internet
> experience. we can all bitch and moan, but at the
> end of the day, your
> never going to escape it fully. it really comes down
> to how little you
> can get. I use gmail for peugeot-l (as you can see),
> and i never get
> any spam in my inbox with all the posts, it does an
> excellent job of
> filtering it into my 'spam' folder automatically. I
> think all serious
> mail providers out there today offer some level of
> spam filtering eh?
> (gmail, yahoo, hotmail, earthlink, aol, etc. etc).
>
> i'd be totally happy with switching to a real list
> manager, but what i
> wouldn't be happy with is splitting the group up. i
> think i mentioned
> this before, but it seems like we have a lot of 'old
> school' users who
> have a hard time hitting 'reply to all' as it is.
> seems like for some,
> it'd be more hassle then its worth to split to
> another list
> (especially if they don't have a problem with spam).
>
> On 2/16/06, (-Phil-) <listacct@mindfart.com> wrote:
> > This is precisely why I am annoyed. I know this
> for a fact.
> >
> > Yahoo is also selling the content for targeted
> spam.
> >
> > They will continue to get more aggressive with
> their "incursions" as time
> > goes on I suspect. (The market is getting
> competitive so they will leverage
> > their assets, being US!)
> >
> > If we put the email list on Mailman we will have
> better control and can take
> > steps like you suggest to prevent spammers from
> joining and harvesting.
> >
> > -Phil
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pug NZ" <pug-yahoo2@azorah.co.nz>
> > To: <larryvan@pclink.com>
> > Cc: "peugeot list" <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] VOTING YES FOR YAHOO
> >
> >
> > > Very little spam comes via the list, however the
> email addresses on the
> > > list are harvested by spammers.
> > > How do I know this?
> > >
> > > I have one email address for posting to the
> list, and another for
> > > receiving emial from the list.
> > > A quick check of the junk folder shows around
> 150 spam messages in the
> > > last couple of days to the email address I use
> for posting.
> > > That email address is only used for posting to
> yahoo, nothing else.
> > >
> > > The problem with using yahoo or any other well
> known groups website, is
> > > that it is not much work for a spammer to sign
> up for a whole stack of
> > > different groups, and then harvest the email
> address from each message
> > > sent to them.
> > >
> > > If we swapped to someones personal group server,
> it will take more
> > > effort for the spammer to find and sign up.
> > > Of course, you could be paranoid and not send
> the email addresses to new
> > > subscribers until they had posted half a dozen
> on topic messages, and
> > > censor messages from newbies prior to posting
> etc to make it harder for
> > > spammers to lurk on the list (who wants some
> work? ).
> > >
> > > I get a bit annoyed that Yahoo keep on dropping
> the ball. One returned
> > > message and the list stops until you realise it
> has been too quiet for a
> > > day or so, then you can't get the missed
> messages resent.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > Vanden Berg wrote:
> > >
> > >>I have no problems with the current Yahoo
> Peugeot list. None. A
> > >>couple of spam messages that slip through on
> occasion are handled in 3
> > >>seconds with the delete key. Meanwhile I get
> 1400 spam messages a week
> > >>to my e-mail address 99.95% of which are removed
> by a spam filter at my
> > >>ISP.
> > >>
> > >>Larry
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Yahoo works fine. Bulk mail filters spam. I never get
any in my inbox.
Brad
505 Liberte
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