Like I said, Highway, you are right. City, the Pruis makes a serious
difference. Recovery of braking energy and reduced loss at idle. (The Prius
doesn't idle)
The Prius is a more roomy car, is faster (143 HP & 377 ft Lbs. vs. 108/105),
rides, and handles much better than the Echo, so it's not a fair comparison.
If you want to compare, start with the corolla, it's closest to the Prius,
but go test-drive both and then tell me which feels better....
Of course the Prius hasn't been around long enough for some reliability
numbers. I always drive my cars into the dirt once I get one, so I am
interested in how the Prius does long-term. It's reasonable to assume the
Engine will last appreciably longer, as it's tightly controlled, and
optimized for a certain RPM. (Plus it doesn't idle) But the question is;
would that offset something else, like replacing the metal-hydride pack?
The pack is small, so I doubt it's anywhere near the cost of an engine
rebuild, but who knows.
-Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian J White" <brian@bjwhite.net>
To: "(Phil)" <yes_this_is_really_my_email_address@mindfart.com>;
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Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Off Topic - buying new daily driver...
>I don't disagree with you.
> What I'm saying is that if a hybrid gets you 45 mpg, and an Echo 5-speed
> gets you 45mpg. Then why bother with the hybrid?
>
> Now if those hybrids actually delivered on their EPA numbers (60mpg +)
> that would be one thing...but they don't. So you're actually wasting
> energy toating around a bunch of nasty batteries everywhere. I'd rather
> have an efficient non-hybrid, and what's funny is that they get the same
> mpg.
>
>
>
> At 14:19 2005-03-05, (Phil) wrote:
>>#1 reason: Because not bothering uses up natural resources.
>>
>>Within my lifetime I am probably going to witness the end of readily
>>useable petroleum which we are dependant on. If more people "bothered",
>>this wouldn't be as big of a problem as it will soon be.
>>
>>-Phil
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J White" <brian@bjwhite.net>
>>To: "(Phil)" <yes_this_is_really_my_email_address@mindfart.com>;
>><peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:33 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Off Topic - buying new daily driver...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>But when a non-hybrid gets you many of the same advantages, then why
>>>bother?
>>>
>>>
>>>At 13:30 2005-03-05, (Phil) wrote:
>>>>Yeah, notice I said *some*. If you do a lot of stop-n-go driving the
>>>>mileage goes up. I have several friends with them, and they really are
>>>>great city cars. Here in the Bay Area, Heavy traffic is the norm, not
>>>>the
>>>>exception, so a Hybrid is a great thing.
>>>>
>>>>Plus even if you don't break even, you are saving gas and emissions, and
>>>>when fuel prices suddenly rise because of some new crisis, you are
>>>>covered. You also are spurring the development of more fuel-efficient
>>>>cars.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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