Yes, the scavenger pump is the one in-tank.
No, I mean the socket where the relay itself plugs in. You said it burnt.
If It did, then it likely overheated one of the metal sockets in the
connector. Check that.
-Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "kenneth parker" <elkeni@mac.com>
To: "(Phil)" <yes_this_is_really_my_email_address@mindfart.com>
Cc: "'Peugeot List'" <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 84 505 STI Unsolved Mysteries
> Phil,
> A couple of questions regarding your post (below):
> 1. What do you mean by "scavenger pump" and are you referring to the
> main or in-tank pump?
> 2. Which tachymetric socket should I check? There is a white
> multi-connector that connects to the relay wire bundle about a foot from
> where the relay plugs in. Is that where I should look?
> Thanks,
> Ken
> By the way, I am a flamenco player. Working on them 505's keeps my nails
> a little shorter then I would like them to be.
> On Mar 4, 2005, at 1:57 AM, (Phil) wrote:
>
>> Possibly an intermittent electrical short and/or high resistance in the
>> wiring to the fuel pump.
>>
>> I have seen 4 things cause this
>> 1. Scavenger Pump (if equipped) going bad.
>> 2. Main Fuel pump going bad.
>> 3. Rear seat shorting out Fuel pump wiring.
>> 4, Crappy connections (standard Peugeot 101)
>>
>> I'm cannot recall for sure what year the 505 got the scanvenger pump,
>> anyone know?
>>
>> Most likely it's #4; Check the socket for the "Tachymetric" relay. Make
>> sure the contacts are tight and clean. If there is any darkness, then
>> this is the problem (black stuff = high resistance = heat = melting
>> relays).
>>
>> Both my father and a friend of mine had the rear seat frame digging into
>> the wires to the fuel pump. This manifested itself has "505 showing
>> it's ass only when carting around a bunch of friends" syndrome. In my
>> dad's case, I think when his mother-in-law got in the back seat, the car
>> promptly died on the side of the road.
>>
>> In my friend's case, it was his daughter getting in the back seat.
>>
>> In my case, the scavenger pump started intermittently "squealing" and
>> would pop the fuses behind the ashtray. I disconnected the scavenger
>> pump and left it that way, only connecting it occasionally to cure the
>> main pump "gurgling" noise when I heard it. I think I had to do that a
>> total of 3 times in 100,000 miles. (after running the tank very low)
>>
>> BTW: The BMW 5 series probably uses the exact same Bosch fuel pump. ;-)
>>
>> Also: My best friend is also a Guitarist (among other things) and
>> produces music for TV/Film/Radio. I should hook you 2 up!
>>
>> -Phil
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "kenneth parker" <elkeni@mac.com>
>> To: "'Peugeot List'" <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:36 PM
>> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 84 505 STI Unsolved Mysteries
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Earlier today I wrote a post about stalling problems that I have been
>>> experiencing since re-torquing my cylinder head (XN6) and adjusting the
>>> valves. Until I retorqued the head and adjusted the valves the car ran
>>> beautifully. Afterwards the car stalled several times on a six mile
>>> drive. It would start again after a few minutes, run for a few minutes
>>> and stall again.
>>>
>>> I checked the system for spark which I plenty of and then, though I
>>> don't have a fuel pressure gauge, I loosened the 12mm banjo fitting at
>>> the f.i. regulator and even while cranking I barely got a trickle of
>>> gas.
>>>
>>> So I figured it was the fuel pump which I priced and stared at for a
>>> while. I figured it couldn't be the tachymetric relay as I had
>>> installed a brand new one three weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, after much fretting (I am a guitarist in real life), I decided
>>> to give the new relay a look and it looked as if it had burned out. I
>>> jumped connections 30 to 87 with some wire and a pair of roach clips,
>>> turned on the key and the car started right up. I let it idle for 20
>>> minutes with no problem, though I did not road test it as it is raining
>>> and the AAA people are getting tired of seeing me.
>>>
>>> Most disconcerting is that the car smoked a lot on startup. I gave
>>> the smoke (which subsided somewhat after a few minutes) a sniff and it
>>> did not smell anti-freezy.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, for the moment the car is alone with its thoughts in the
>>> garage and I don't want to see it or talk to it.
>>>
>>> I have a couple of questions:
>>> 1. Shouldn't the tachymetric relay, even one made by Peugeot, last
>>> more then three weeks (like maybe a month)?
>>> 2. What could have caused the relay to burn out?
>>> 3. What might the smoke be about? I recently installed a pressure
>>> tested, resurfaced and re-guided head on the car. I got okay stats for
>>> liner protrusion and side-by-side protrusion stats. I am beginning to
>>> take this personally and am seriously considering dumping the fleet
>>> (two 505's and a 75 504) and getting a 525i or a car that actually runs
>>> reliably.
>>>
>>> Any input will be graciously welcomed.
>>>
>>> Ken (losing faith and maybe his mind in Richmond, CA)
>>>
>>>
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