I doubt that they are created equall, you allways get what you pay for. But
when there is only one brand available such as I run into, just buy the one.
There should be mixxing amounts on the tube. One usually does our size
differentials.
Joe
- Original Message -----
From: <tewoods@mindspring.com>
To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 8:45 PM
Subject: [Peugeot-L] Another question
>
> Hi everybody;
>
> Just curious about lube in the limited-slip differentials - is it 80-90
> weight? And are all limited-slip additives created equal? How much
> additive is right? thanks, Tom Woods
>
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 27 Mar 2005 19:30:36 -0000
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Digest Number 1819
>
>
>
>
> There are 14 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. RE: Gas mileage - ZDJL wagon
> From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
> 2. Yahoo Photos available, for 504,505,404, and 1000 Simca
> From: Thomas Miessner-Pulliam <tpulliam@gmail.com>
> 3. Gas mileage
> From: "tilac1" <tilac1@yahoo.com>
> 4. Re: Gas mileage
> From: Eduardo Kaftanski <e@nn.cl>
> 5. Re: Re: Gas mileage
> From: Eduardo Kaftanski <e@nn.cl>
> 6. Re: Re: Gas mileage
> From: RSeidel908@aol.com
> 7. Re: Gas mileage
> From: RSeidel908@aol.com
> 8. mileage
> From: macjava@aol.com
> 9. Re: Gas mileage
> From: Andrew <akroiter@yahoo.com.au>
> 10. end of another era and gas mileage again
> From: Steven Klein <infoman@ZIPCON.NET>
> 11. 86 505 Turbo Gas Workshop manuals
> From: "t505sw" <limonat@lycos.com>
> 12. Re: Gas mileage
> From: Thomas Mladenka <tmladenka@yahoo.ca>
> 13. RE: 86 505 Turbo Gas Workshop manuals
> From: "con" <phred@exemail.com.au>
> 14. 604 for sale in Texas
> From: peugeot604td@aol.com
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:15:43 -0800
> From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
> Subject: RE: Gas mileage - ZDJL wagon
>
> When I'm in 5th gear, it's an overdrive. Now, I haven't done a couple
> of hundred mile trip, but for city stuff, I can drive the car all day
> and never crack 3000 rpm if that's my fancy. Because of some issues, I
> pretty much drive rather conservatively. Usually only breaking 3K a
> couple of times.
>
> When I say "undercarriage", I mean plastic panels that aid in airflow.
>
> I was looking at the stats, and comparing weight. They were all kicking
> our cars butts. :(
>
> Brian White's new 5 series with a V8 is getting no worse mileage. I
> don't know if it's considered a tow car in any respect of the word, but
> I think he mentioned he'll be towing his slot-Miata around with it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Aube [mailto:maube@idirect.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:59 AM
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Gas mileage - ZDJL wagon
>
>
>
> Koll, have a good look at the Peugeot undercarriage, I can't remember
> any sharp flat nose areas facing forward, everything is meant for
> airflow. The NA models though are covered with an undercoat which is not
> smooth but makes the vehicles last much longer. As to mileage, Peugeots
> were always designed as workhorses, at least up to the 505. The low diff
> gears don't help high speed mileage but if you look at the owner's
> manual, you will see that it is rated to carry and tow more than a
> Caprice which in most cases is equipped with a 2.23/1 diff ratio while
> most of our cars have 3.73/1 to 4.53/1 final ratios . If you look at the
> latest stats on newer vehicles of the same size, you'll find that the
> older Peugeots are getting the same, if not better mileage, and I
> thought they were getting better. Mike Aube
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:22:39 -0800
> From: Thomas Miessner-Pulliam <tpulliam@gmail.com>
> Subject: Yahoo Photos available, for 504,505,404, and 1000 Simca
>
> Ok, several months back I wanted to show people my Peugeots for sale.
> Well, finally, I got these albums off private mode, hence why I had
> troubles with people not being able to see them
>
> The photos are on yahoo.com under user name pearcehall.
>
> Let me know what you all think!
>
> Thomas
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:42:56 -0000
> From: "tilac1" <tilac1@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Gas mileage
>
>
> I've always wondered why a 2.0 liter(!) 4 cylinder should get 6 (or even
> 8)
> cylinder gas mileage. Granted, my '87 wagon with 4-spd auto (and lock-up
> torque converter) weighs around 3500 pounds but still...
>
> I don't even know what my MPG is 'cause my odometer is broken, of course.
> Still love the car though...
>
> Brad
> '87 Liberte Wagon
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:05:08 -0400
> From: Eduardo Kaftanski <e@nn.cl>
> Subject: Re: Gas mileage
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 11:42:56PM -0000, tilac1 wrote:
>>
>>
>> I've always wondered why a 2.0 liter(!) 4 cylinder should get 6 (or even
> 8) cylinder gas mileage. Granted, my '87 wagon with 4-spd auto (and
> lock-up
> torque converter) weighs around 3500 pounds but still...
>>
>
> Gas mileage is not a direct function of engine size, but of power required
> and eficiency.
>
> Best fuel efficiency is with a light car, low resistance and properly
> sized
> engine.
>
> As for driving for best fuel efficiency, always remember that minimizing
> braking minimizes fuel consumption. If you drive in a way that you avoid
> braking as much as possible, you are driving using as litle fuel as
> possible
> also...
>
>
> --
> Eduardo Kaftanski
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> Gerente Ingenieria LinuxCenter S.A.
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:08:53 -0400
> From: Eduardo Kaftanski <e@nn.cl>
> Subject: Re: Re: Gas mileage
>
> On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 08:14:09AM -0800, Brian J White wrote:
>>
>> I'm a major metric-head and I strongly beleive that the United States
>> should convert.
>>
>> But I must admit I really hate the liters per 100 km measurement.
> Should
>> be liters per km. Something per unit. Not something per 100 units.
> But
>> oh well.
>>
>
> Thats the way we measure it where I live. My 405 SR gets 8.5 kilometers
> per liter using that method. City. Highway is more like 12k/l.
>
> --
> Eduardo Kaftanski
> eduardo@linuxcenterla.com
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> Gerente Ingenieria LinuxCenter S.A.
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> Chile
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>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:58:26 EST
> From: RSeidel908@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Gas mileage
>
>
> In a message dated 3/26/2005 11:05:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> august.macbeth@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> I think another thing we all need to keep in mind is the accuracy
> (actually, lack of it) with these late model 505 instrument clusters.
> I've yet to see one that's accurate and mainly, !consistent!.
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Good point. Auto Club checks (members) accuracy for free.
> -Ray S.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:11:36 EST
> From: RSeidel908@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Gas mileage
>
>
> In a message dated 3/26/2005 7:06:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, e@nn.cl
> writes:
>
> Gas mileage is not a direct function of engine size, but of power
> required
> and eficiency.
>
> Best fuel efficiency is with a light car, low resistance and properly
> sized
> engine.
>
> As for driving for best fuel efficiency, always remember that minimizing
> braking minimizes fuel consumption. If you drive in a way that you avoid
> braking as much as possible, you are driving using as litle fuel as
> possible
> also...
>
>
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> I will add a note here for better MPG:
> * Synthetic oil. (Lower weight oil get better mpg such as 0W-30 vs.15-50,
> but our higher mileage engines probably need the latter.)
> * MiCHELIN MXV4 ENERGY tires. SUPER low rolling resistance.
> * Regardless of the tire, keep that pressure up...can use 5 psi over what
> the sticker says.
> * Clean air filter. (But where does one buy one for a Pug?)
> * Good spark plugs. (Everyone has their favorites, but I like BOSCHE
> multi-electrode). This is not expensive...some are what...a buck each on
> sale?
> * Buy your gas in the MORNING when it is cold...you get more gas that way.
> It expands with the heat of the day.
> There are others, but I'm stopping here. Someone else can pick it up from
> this point.
> -Ray S.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:00:00 EST
> From: macjava@aol.com
> Subject: mileage
>
>
> I seem to get about 20 mpg city and 22 at 60 to 70 mph (possibly one or
> two
>
> mpg less with the A/C in 100°f Georgia summertime) with our TWO ZDJL SW8
> cars.
>
> I'm about ready to get some batteries in our commutacar for city driving.
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
>
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>
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>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:10:30 +1000 (EST)
> From: Andrew <akroiter@yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Gas mileage
>
> 1982 505 TD 5 speed- Daily Driver, 40MPG (Imp) for
> regular rush hour commute
>
> 1991 405 MI16 - Wifes Daily Driver 25MPG (Imp) for
> daily short city commute, 35MPG recent highway trip
>
> 1985 505 Turbo Speed 31MPG city/highway commute with
> light right foot
>
> John (grumbling that diesel prices have gone
> significantly higher than gas - what's up with that?)
>
> G'day from downunder :)
> 1981 604SRDT 5 speed - driven most days mainly country
> cruising - getting approx 12l/100km. something's wrong
> but I don't know what
>
> John, you've noticed that diesel has gone up like
> that, too, eh? In my part of Australia, standard
> unleaded is selling for $1.13/litre. Diesel is selling
> for $1.22/litre. And diesel is supposed to be cheaper
> to produce!
>
> 1984 505 SR Familiale
> 1981 604 SLTD
> Bribbaree, NSW
> Australia
>
> Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.
> http://au.movies.yahoo.com
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:23:55 -0800
> From: Steven Klein <infoman@ZIPCON.NET>
> Subject: end of another era and gas mileage again
>
> I drove by the old location of Nelson Peugeot/Chevrolet in Seattle today
> and the Peugeot sign was gone- it's now a Nissan dealer (with no class).
>
> Re: gas mileage again. I'm in total agreement about the inaccuracy of
> the instrument cluster on my 505- I think I've avoided speeding tickets
> because the speedometer is 5-7% fast. On the other hand when it pleases
> me I like to believe the speed indicated. These cars provide something
> for all the senses.
>
> Steven Klein
> '85 505GL wagon
> 145k
>
> PS- Peat- thanks for the info on the location on the bolts for the roof
> rack.
> s again
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 08:50:18 -0000
> From: "t505sw" <limonat@lycos.com>
> Subject: 86 505 Turbo Gas Workshop manuals
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I saw an old thread about turning those workshop manuals into PDF
> files. Did that project ever get of the ground?
>
> If not how can I get them? It'd be great if someone would make a copy,
> I'd pay for the copying and shipping.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> L
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:54:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: Thomas Mladenka <tmladenka@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Gas mileage
>
> Here diesel is about 80 to 98 cents per litre, and gasoline is about 70 to
> 98 cents per litre (depending where you fill up), so I guess that's not
> too
> bad then.
>
> PS I get about 850km to the tank, so that's not too bad
>
> Thomas - '86 505 TD automatic
>
>
>
>> wrote:
> 1982 505 TD 5 speed- Daily Driver, 40MPG (Imp) for
> regular rush hour commute
>
> 1991 405 MI16 - Wifes Daily Driver 25MPG (Imp) for
> daily short city commute, 35MPG recent highway trip
>
> 1985 505 Turbo Speed 31MPG city/highway commute with
> light right foot
>
> John (grumbling that diesel prices have gone
> significantly higher than gas - what's up with that?)
>
> G'day from downunder :)
> 1981 604SRDT 5 speed - driven most days mainly country
> cruising - getting approx 12l/100km. something's wrong
> but I don't know what
>
> John, you've noticed that diesel has gone up like
> that, too, eh? In my part of Australia, standard
> unleaded is selling for $1.13/litre. Diesel is selling
> for $1.22/litre. And diesel is supposed to be cheaper
> to produce!
>
> 1984 505 SR Familiale
> 1981 604 SLTD
> Bribbaree, NSW
> Australia
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:27:03 +1000
> From: "con" <phred@exemail.com.au>
> Subject: RE: 86 505 Turbo Gas Workshop manuals
>
> L
>
>
>
> I have the "N9TE Technical Description" in pdf. It has a lot of useful
> data
> (part numbers, wiring diagram etc).
>
> I can send it to you by email but it is large. In fact, I have divided it
> into two parts and each is still about 4Mbyte in size.
>
>
>
> Let me if you want it emailed to you.
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>
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>
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> Con... Sydney
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> 504 GL 1979
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> From: t505sw [mailto:limonat@lycos.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 27 March 2005 6:50 PM
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 86 505 Turbo Gas Workshop manuals
>
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I saw an old thread about turning those workshop manuals into PDF
> files. Did that project ever get of the ground?
>
> If not how can I get them? It'd be great if someone would make a copy,
> I'd pay for the copying and shipping.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> L
>
>
>
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> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:17:37 EST
> From: peugeot604td@aol.com
> Subject: 604 for sale in Texas
>
>
> I dont have any connection to this person or car! Contact John direct by
> phone or email.
> ===========
>
> Thank you, Steffen. Yes, I did realize that it was a long way to
> Richmond
> and (also) that 604 owners are likely very few and far bewteen in the
> USA.
>
> The elderly owner passed away recently and the widow is getting rid of
> his
> eclectic collection of old cars. Before this one goes to the local
> foreign car
> salvage yard, perhaps some other 604 owners might like to know of its
> existence. Any help that you could offer will be appreciated. The best
> way to reach
> me is this way, but my home telephone number is: 325/437-2247. That
> number
> is used by my dial-up modem. So, as a result, it is nearly constantly
> "busy".
> The leather interior is pretty much "cooked" thanks to too many summers
> in
> the West Texas heat. However, all the exterior sheet metal is vey nice,
> and
> the car appears 100% complete. I can get a more complete assessment of
> the
> car's condition, including pics, to any interested parties.
> Once again, thank you for the offer to help.
> Sincerely,
> John
> John McMahon
> Abilene, Texas
> _jfm@nts-online.net_ (mailto:jfm@nts-online.net)
> P.S. If I didn't mention it before, my sister owns two 1987 505s, and
> just
> loves them. Both have the same bright red orange paint color and are, in
> my
> opinion, just a dream to drive. One is a turbo 5-speed
> sedan and the other is an automatic station wagon.
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