Presumably Peugeot has made some mechanical and electrical
improvement to the 307 over the years, but the evidence points to the
307 being a poor engineered car with poor quality parts and
insufficient quality control in assembly. The 307's faults extend
beyond electrical gremlines to noisy transmissions, clutch flywheel
failure, engine failure and transmission failure. The 307 ranks near
to last in the Top Gear and UK JD Powers surveys because of endless
electrical and mechanical problems. The 406 is apparently quite
reliable, so is the Xantia, which I know from personal experience (I
have a friend who has one and basically nothing has gone wrong with
it in more than 65,000 miles.) From what I've read the 607 is a
crapshoot and the C4 seems to be problematic.
Here are an owner's comments about his or her 2005 307:
New Turbo Charger at 1000 miles.
New engine management system at 2500 miles.
Cruise control fails to cut out when needed to.
Throttle action jerky and unresponsive.
Radio jumps from one station to the next, and apparently if it
doesn't like the channel, it switches on the CD changer, which then
usually doesn't work after about 5 minutes.
CD changer damages CD's whilst loading them.
New EGR valve fitted.
New CD changer, Sat Nav unit, and display screen fitted.
Fuel consumption has never been better than 32.1 to the gallon,
depite the official figures being over 60mpg. I would at least expect
40-45 on a decent run.
Another new engine management system at 8000 miles. Also yet another
attempt at fixing all the various electrical problems affecting the
CD/Sat Nav/Telematics package, to no avail.
Fuel consumption getting worse, and the performance for a 136HP car
is appalling, no power, feels more like a 90hp engine.
Automatic headlight system failed, lights stuck on permanently now.
Rain sensor would not know water if you stuck it in a bucket of the
stuff, which means the auto wipers also don't work now.
On occasion, the car simply will not start, like a dead battery, only
everything else works, just not the engine/starter. Great for
confidence when away from home.
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "peugeotvoittaja" <jarvinenjp@...>
wrote:
>
> Reliability of 407 is much better than 307 (although many people
> claim their 307 almost faultless too).
>
> 607, 406, 407 and 206 have quite a good reputation being reliable,
> 307 doesn't. Citroen C4 which is made in same factory with same
> engines and by same people than 307 is quite reliable.
>
> The problematic PSA products being C5 (pre-facelift) and 307 (pre-
> facelift) with 1.6-litre engine. Some of the quality issues have
> been minor rattles or noises some being electrical gremlins.
>
> After all PSA has got their act together.
>
> According the Automotive News:
>
> "PSA/Peugeot-Citroen's three-year plan to obtain better parts from
> suppliers is succeeding, a top executive says.
>
> "We have improved the quality of components by nearly 45 percent,"
> said Jean-Philippe Collin, PSA's purchasing director. "We are on
> target."
>
> Few months after joining PSA in July 2004, Collin launched a drive
> to boost parts quality. His move followed criticisms that poor
parts
> were damaging the quality of PSA's cars."
>
> I wouldn't hesitate to any of the PSA products right now.
>
> Pasi from Finland
> 405 SRI
> 309 GT
> 305 GL
>
>
>
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "hugo_steincamp" <hsteincamp@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Europe's a difficult market? At least it is Peugeot's home turf.
> I
> > think America will be really tough for Peugeot, which has
terrible
> > reputation in this country, if it has a reputation at all. Cars
> such
> > as the 307 with its dismal lack of reliability and build quality
> > simply won't cut it in the US, especially for the premium price
> > Peugeot will want for it. We aren't talking Kia pricing here.
VW
> is
> > losing more than 1 billion a year in the US market, and that's a
> > company that is well-established here. I can't see how Peugeot
> > expects to be a volume seller in the US with its current
product.
> >
> > On another note, I would be quite happy with a 407 diesel or with
> a
> > 207 if the reliability isn't bad. In fact, I might start saving
> now.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hugo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, J R <peugeottogo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The only quote from Jean found on the AP Wire Services site is:
> > >
> > > "Jean-Martin Folz, chief executive of France's PSA Peugeot
> > Citroen, said the company was mulling a return to the U.S.
market,
> > some 15 years after it pulled out because of declining sales.
> > > He said Peugeot intends to return "in the not too distant
> > future," calling Europe "a very competitive and difficult market,
> > where all the manufacturers are present, and where one does not
> earn
> > the most money."
> > >
> > > If PSA is "mulling", then PSA is thinking no different than us
> > Peugeot's fans here in the states. To Ponder, Jeff
> > >
> > > p404c <tippett@> wrote:
> > > Jean-Martin Folz was interviewed on the eve of the Salon de
> > Genève
> > > today and AP Wire Services is reporting that he will spearhead
> an
> > early
> > > return of Peugeot to North America.
> > >
> > > Notice it is not April 1st!
> > >
> > > More to follow.
> > >
> > > Mike Tippett
> > > 404 Coupé Injection
> > > 405 DL
> > > smart fortwo cdi cabriolet
> > >
> > >
> > >
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