[Peugeot-L] Re: 505 Diesel radiators & heater core by-pass

From: firepiston <firepiston_at_fastmail.fm>
Date: 04/17/06


Torque to yield are the type of bolts and not the method used to torque the bolts.

Do you have a pic of the filter? Is the clear bowl all glass. Do you have a pic? Sounds like it could be an older unit from a 504 diesel.

  • In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...> wrote:
    >
    > Yep Clear as mud, but it is good enough for me.
    > Anyone know about this pre-fuel-filter looking canister in front
    of the left
    > wheel well by the radiator? I would pull it off but it is
    difficult to
    > reach. I did get the top cover off and indeed there is a fuel
    filter
    > submersed in a clear canister. Seems like a good idea but poor
    placement. I
    > may relocate it. I looked like the filter paper was clean and
    white so I
    > just put it back.
    > Brian Rodgers
    >
    > On 4/16/06, Mike Aube <maube@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > Torque to yield head bolts are where you torque the head bolt (
    most are
    > > around 30lbs/ft) then give it another 90 deg (+ another 90 on
    the 405)
    > > rotation to stretch the bolt to constant pressure. Probably
    clear as mud.
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
    > > To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
    > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 4:38 PM
    > > Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 Diesel radiators & heater core by-pass
    > >
    > >
    > > > Sweet, I still have it in the garage. Now that I know better
    how to pull
    > > > the
    > > > valve cover I might do the head torque right now. Afterward I
    will check
    > > > the
    > > > valve adjustment again. For now I replaced the heater hose
    leaving it to
    > > > bypass the core. What do you mean by "not torque to yield"?
    > > > Actually this is very encouraging. I think I will go do the
    torque right
    > > > now, anything to keep from pulling the head.
    > > > Thanks
    > > > BrianRodgers
    > > >
    > > > On 4/16/06, Mike Aube <maube@...> wrote:
    > > >>
    > > >> Darn, I had forgotten that you had mentioned that. Should have
    > > suggested
    > > >> that you retorque the head before doing the valve adjustment.
    The head
    > > >> bolts
    > > >> on the 81/82 are not torque to yield and sometimes loosen up
    enough to
    > > >> let
    > > >> some gas through to the cooling system. A retorque, when
    caught on
    > > time,
    > > >> cures that.
    > > >> ----- Original Message -----
    > > >> From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
    > > >> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
    > > >> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:08 AM
    > > >> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 Diesel radiators & heater core by-
    pass
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >> >I too am working with a diesel coolant system. I have a 1981
    505s TD
    > > >> >XD2S
    > > >> > engine. Yesterday I did the valve adjustment. They were not
    off by
    > > >> > much,
    > > >> a
    > > >> > little tight. I spent the rest of the day replacing hoses
    and
    > > generally
    > > >> > investigating my new car. While I have the coolant
    reservoir off for
    > > >> > the
    > > >> > valve adjustment I checked the hoses going to the heater
    core. One
    > > has
    > > >> > been
    > > >> > cut off at the firewall the other removed from the right
    rear head
    > > port
    > > >> > and
    > > >> > the hose which comes from the cluster by the water pump
    goes back
    > > into
    > > >> the
    > > >> > head bypassing the heater.
    > > >> > I got this car cheap from a used car dealership because
    their
    > > mechanic
    > > >> > said
    > > >> > bubbles in the radiator mean blown head gasket. I wrote
    about this
    > > when
    > > >> I
    > > >> > first joined this wonderful group last Summer. I have
    decided to
    > > drive
    > > >> the
    > > >> > car as it is not blowing out coolant hoses. I investigated
    the
    > > heater
    > > >> > core
    > > >> > and it looks like the valve is what was leaking.
    > > >> > Here is my hypothesis: I believe the valve couldn't handle
    the
    > > >> > increase
    > > >> > in
    > > >> > coolant pressure due to either an obstruction or a head
    gasket leak.
    > > >> After
    > > >> > seeing the heater core bypass job, I think this car has been
    > > >> pressurising
    > > >> > the coolant lines for a long time. I am considering
    installing a
    > > valve
    > > >> in
    > > >> > the hose going to the heater core, to protect the heater
    valve in the
    > > >> > Summer. Any thoughts on this?
    > > >> >
    > > >> > During my investigation under the hood, I am looking at
    this canister
    > > >> > in
    > > >> > front of the vacuum bottle. It has two fuel lines and what
    looks to
    > > be
    > > >> > a
    > > >> > fuel reservoir in the bottom. Perhaps a pre-fuel
    filter/strainer
    > > water
    > > >> > separator thing? I can't figure out how to pull it out for
    > > maintenance.
    > > >> It
    > > >> > is mounted to the left hand wheel well with plumbers strap,
    so it may
    > > >> > be
    > > >> > an
    > > >> > add-on. It has some kind of drain in the bottom, which goes
    through
    > > the
    > > >> > wheel well to the ground. I can't tell if it was original
    equipment
    > > or
    > > >> > what.
    > > >> > Please advise
    > > >> >
    > > >> > Sincerely,
    > > >> > Brian Rodgers
    > > >> >
    > > >> >
    > > >> > On 4/15/06, Brian Holm <peugeots@...> wrote:
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> Richard,
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> The radiators should be equal in performance. There isn't
    a factory
    > > >> >> hose that will connect your water pump with that radiator,
    but there
    > > >> >> is an aftermarket one that will work fine. You could use
    604 lines
    > > >> >> to connect the transmission with the heat exchanger. That
    would
    > > >> >> probably be preferable to an external cooler.
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> Brian Holm, Used and New Parts for Peugeots
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> At 06:03 PM 4/15/2006, pugmanvancan wrote:
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> >Hi, hoping someone more knowledgeable than I can give
    their two
    > > cents
    > > >> >> >worth. I have received (thanks Chuck) a replacement
    radiator for my
    > > >> >> >'85 XD2S turbo diesel. It came out of a 604 TD so is
    slightly
    > > >> >> >different to the one in my '85 505. Firstly the top hose
    connects
    > > to
    > > >> >> >the same side as the bottom hose and secondly the auto
    trans
    > > cooling
    > > >> >> >lines are on the opposite side. Ok so I can get around
    the trans
    > > >> >> >cooling by going with an aftermarket cooler but will it
    make a
    > > >> >> >difference to engine cooling if I now have both hoses
    connecting to
    > > >> >> >the same side. How does the cooling compare between
    radiators?
    > > >> >> >
    > > >> >> >Will I have better, worse or the same cooling with the
    replacement?
    > > >> >> >
    > > >> >> >cheers
    > > >> >> >
    > > >> >> >Richard
    > > >> >> >
    > > >> >>
    > > >> >> Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
    > > >> >> at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
    > > >> >> 2120 Maple Hill
    > > >> >> Plainfield, VT, 05667
    > > >> >> 802-454-7132, fax -1310
    > >
    >
    >
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