Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: Doing Battle - '85 505 N9T

From: P Young <goodandloud_at_comcast.net>
Date: 04/19/06

Ooops! brain fart on my part. Yes I did mean distributor.

The only other thing I'd suggest is checking the connector on a control wire (#8) I think, that goes between the Inj ecu and the ign ecu. On the '86 it's down near the pass. side speaker under the glove box (not sure where it is on the '85. I had a high resistance at this connector.

Peat

On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:55 PM, John Parsons wrote:

> Peat,
>
> Are you sure you mean alternator? There is a HAL effect device in the
> distributor but the alternator?
>
> John
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, P Young <goodandloud@...> wrote:
>>
>> One thing you didn't mention, though you might have already checked
>> this is the hall effect device in the alternator. I had similar
>> symptoms when mine was on the way out. Unfortunately it's difficult
>> to
>> just replace the device, easier to just replace with a known good
>> alternator. There's a check for it in the manual.
>>
>> Peat
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2006, at 10:07 AM, John Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I would say that we are pretty close to junking this car.
>>> Perfect body, new paint, good interior but this electrical gremlin we
>>> are chasing is getting the better of us. The problem started with an
>>> intermittent starting/running problem. Car would fire but die as
>>> soon
>>> as you let off the key. Investigation of relays, etc. did not really
>>> fix anything but after fiddling with connections and the like we have
>>> not seen that problem for a few weeks now.
>>>
>>> Now the problem, and it is intermittent to some extent is as follows;
>>> - as soon as micro switch is opened we get 6 flashes of the
>>> detination
>>> light
>>> - car has a horrible miss which seems to be the injection system
>>> cutting out
>>> - sometimes it will not idle, but just dies after running (length of
>>> time varies)
>>> - other times it will idle and run fine, no light even, then it just
>>> goes for sh!t again (this is all just sitting on the shop floor, not
>>> changing anything, just trying to get the pattern to repeat so we can
>>> nail down the problem.
>>>
>>> We have checked, tweaked and or replaced the following;
>>> - all relevant relays, including tachometric
>>> - throttle microswitch (gave wrong reading when open so we
> replaced it)
>>> - throttle potentiometer – replaced and reset
>>> - various temp sensors checked
>>> - tried other MAF unit, no difference
>>> - tried injection and ignition ECU's from well running car. While
>>> the
>>> injection ECU from the bad car makes the good runner run like crap
>>> and
>>> stall, the ECU from the good car has little effect in the bad (bad,
>>> bad, very bad!) car.
>>> - As per manual, relevant ECU wires checked for continuity or
>>> resistance values – OK
>>>
>>> Car has been hooked to scope and ignition side looks good. Injection
>>> seems to be the problem but for the life of us we cannot figure out
>>> what is causing it to act up. As I said, it can be idling and just
>>> die. When trying to drive it while it is acting up, it is as if the
>>> injection shuts down and then starts again – result is that of a
>>> horrible miss. It might then just clear up for a little while and
>>> then start all over again.
>>>
>>> I am sure we have tried things that I have forgotten to mention but
>>> this is getting long. Anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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