Peugeot Day at the Pacific Rim Brewery! Just a reminder for any
Northwesterners who can make it. On May 13th from 2:00 until 5:00 or so
there will be a hosted beer party at the Pacific Rim Brewery in White
Center, Seattle, WA. They have live music that night and food will be
available all day. The link for addresses and directions is
http://pacificrimbrewing.com/, and you can send any questions you have to me
at kbouffiou@comcast.net. Although it isn't as cool as a Peugeot there will
also be a track racing Porsche their with there crew. Questions email me or
call at 206-919-3525. Thanks, Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:06 PM
To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Peugeot-L] Digest Number 2290
There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
- 404 dash removal
On From: "Todd Kelson" peugeot404a@yahoo.com
- Re: 404 dash removal
From: "Mike Aube" maube@idirect.com
- Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
From: "Mike Aube" maube@idirect.com
- FS: 86 505 Gas turbo sedan on CL
From: "t505sw" limonat@lycos.com
- Reminder: PCNA Spring Meet @ Carlisle
From: "pjschlick@cs.com" pjschlick@cs.com
- Re: 404 dash removal
From: "p404c" tippett@shaw.ca
- Peugeot 307 CC Review
From: "hugo_steincamp" hsteincamp@hotmail.com
- 505 XD2 valve adjustment
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
- More on the Yaris French Connection
From: "alan5o5" alan5o5@hotmail.com
- Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
From: "Bob Bruce" bobbruce@mts.net
- 505 XD2 valve adjustment
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
- 81' 505s TD speedo issues
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
Message 1
From: "Todd Kelson" peugeot404a@yahoo.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 2:53pm(PDT)
Subject: 404 dash removal
I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned out
bulbs. Any guidance out there?
Todd Kelson
1968 404 Automatique
Message 2
From: "Mike Aube" maube@idirect.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 3:41pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: 404 dash removal
Reach in behind near the center of the instrument cluster, unscrew the
speedo cable and the wingnut, lift the assembly up and out
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Kelson" <peugeot404a@yahoo.com>
To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: [Peugeot-L] 404 dash removal
> I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned out
> bulbs. Any guidance out there?
> Todd Kelson
> 1968 404 Automatique
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Message 3
From: "Mike Aube" maube@idirect.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 4:03pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat rate way
of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise adjustment
that way.
Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
Cool engine min. 6 hrs
rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use the front
or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder closest
to the flywheel)
Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the hood, it can
be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate engine 1/2
turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4 intake, # 2
exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust, rotate
to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@gmail.com>
To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel XDS2. I
> think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I will go out
> and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the engine from
> the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two rocking
> free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
>
> Done cold, very cold.
>
> BrianRodgers
>
> On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hey group-
>>
>> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and it's
>> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even know if
>> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
>>
>> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is possible and
>> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
>> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change. Thanks...
>>
>> -matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> --
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> 1974 Mercedes 250
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Message 4
From: "t505sw" limonat@lycos.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 4:17pm(PDT)
Subject: FS: 86 505 Gas turbo sedan on CL
Hi,
Saw this on CL Bay Area, CA. It's an
86 505 Gas turbo sedan automatic $600.
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/156287170.html
Just passing it along -- not mine or anybody I know.
Cheers,
--L
Message 5
From: "pjschlick@cs.com" pjschlick@cs.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 5:55pm(PDT)
Subject: Reminder: PCNA Spring Meet @ Carlisle
Just a reminder the the PCNA Spring Meet is at Carlisle, PA on May 19-21.
Most people are there on Saturday, but some of us are there Friday and
Sunday as
well. We're usually located near the grandstand. Look for the Peugeot flag
flying high.
If you're planning on coming, please register your car. Be sure to mention
Peugeot Club of North America (don't us an abbreviation like PCNA).
You can register on-line at www.carsatcarlisle.com and look for the Import
Show.
Please let us know if you're coming.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact us at this e-mail address or
at 215 752 7178.
Jim & Pam Schlick
1966 403B, 1966 404 Cabriolet Injection, 1967 404 Coupe Injection, 1968 404
Sedan Automatique, 1968 204 Cabriolet, 1979 504 Diesel Sedan, 1991 Mi16,
1991
405 S, 1992 405 S
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Message 6
From: "p404c" tippett@shaw.ca
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 7:46pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: 404 dash removal
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Kelson" <peugeot404a@...>
wrote:
>
> I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned
out
> bulbs. Any guidance out there?
The pod is held on by a wing nut IIRC, reach WAY under and undo it,
then unscrew the speedo head, then remove. The 68 has plugs instead
of the million spaghetti wires that the pre-67 model has, so that part
should be easy.
Good luck
Mike Tippett
404 Coupé Injection
405 DL
smart fortwo cdi cabriolet
Message 7
From: "hugo_steincamp" hsteincamp@hotmail.com
Date: Tue May 2, 2006 9:33pm(PDT)
Subject: Peugeot 307 CC Review
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Pushing Tin In A Peugeot
06/04/2006David Linklater
Theoretically, the end-of-summer rainy season should be the time for
a car like the Peugeot 307 CC to shine.
Top-down motoring on summer days and balmy nights? Anybody can
provide that. But convertible motoring on demand, with no compromise
on safety and wet-weather protection, is still the preserve of the
folding-roof coupe convertible (that's CC to you and I).
In that context the facelifted CC is a fine effort. The complex
folding-roof mechanism gives tin-top security and refinement, yet you
can motor it up or down at the flip of a switch in 25 seconds. You
can even operate it while the car is moving, at speeds of up to
10km/h - perfect if a downpour threatens and you're stranded in a
traffic jam on the motorway.
The roof locks are activated by an electronically controlled
hydraulic system and are fully automatic. The roof assembly is
manufactured by CTS, the same German company that supplies roof
mechanisms for the Mercedes-Benz SLK and SL models.
It's practical, too. The boot offers a sedan-like 350 litres when the
roof's up. With the protective blind in place (the roof won't operate
without it), you're left with a still-respectable 204 litres,
although you'll need shallow luggage or soft bags to make the most of
it.
And yet the CC is a strangely unsatisfying exercise. The 307 is a
perfectly nice small hatch - smart looking, spacious and relatively
sharp on the road. The CC, er, isn't.
Roof-down, the CC could almost be called elegant. The high waistline
of the four-seat cabin forms a continuous line with the rear deck and
the massive windscreen arches over the front seats in a dramatic,
dare-to-be-different way.
Roof-up - the way it's going to be for most of its working life - the
CC is a design disaster. The excessively cab-forward profile and
pudding-bowl roofline are awkward and the big fat arse (required to
accommodate the folding roof mechanism) is, well, butt-ugly.
You sit low in the CC, and you might as well stretch out because the
rear seats are little more than a marketing exercise. The tapered
cabin (that folding-roof mechanism again) means that the rear chairs
are upright, extremely narrow and sans space for adult legs. Shame -
although they're very handy for small packages.
The addition of a new variable-valve-timed 2.0-litre engine to the CC
is welcome. Although the power gain has been minimal (an extra 3kW
and 10Nm) over the old mill, the improved flexibility has given the
CC a new lease of life. In its previous guise, the 100kW 2.0-litre
automatic powertrain really struggled with the bulk of this portly
1573kg machine. There was a 134kW version with manual transmission
that had considerably more verve, but they couldn't give those away
to Kiwi buyers; it's not a manual-gearbox kind of car, you see.
As it stands, the new 103kW CC automatic has an acceptably lively
feel and a harder edge at the top of the rev range than the old car,
although it's still no traffic-light racer: in the 12-second sprint
to 100km/h you'll be hard pressed to outrun a well-driven $20k
supermini.
The four-speed automatic transmission is responsive if you're
pressing on like a fashion model who's late for a photo shoot, but
awkward and indecisive in regular around-town running.
The CC is the only 307 to have electronic stability control as
standard (it's in a $1970 option pack, along with cruise control and
alarm, on the hatch and SW versions). It's a system that monitors
steering wheel angle, yaw speed and wheel speed, and can
automatically adjust engine torque and individual brakes in order to
correct a skid. Sensible bit of spec - not just because you expect
such equipment on a $53,990 car, but because the CC needs it more
than any other model in the lineup. It weighs a whopping 250kg more
than the equivalent 307 hatch and you feel every kilogram on the open
road.
Decent steering feel and a pleasant low-speed ride are the CC's
dynamic strong points. But on rough surfaces the car flexes and
fusses, while at speed the extra bulk introduces sluggish handling
responses and unwanted body roll. You can still feel the fluent
chassis of a 307 lurking somewhere underneath - it's just that
somewhere along the way they cut the roof off and added the
equivalent of three burly blokes to the body structure.
There are some pretty clever bits on the 307 CC. The plastic front
wings (as per the other 307 models) are superbly practical for the
inner-city driver, look past the styling and roof mechanism is neatly
integrated into the body structure, the fingertip satellite controls
for the audio are perfectly placed and the combination cruise/speed
limiter (Citroens have it too) is dead-easy to use.
But being a Peugeot, there are also the inevitable build-quality
niggles. Our test car was cursed with squeaks and rattles, and the
wobbly boot wouldn't click shut unless you laid your hand dead-centre
on the lid to ensure it landed squarely on the latch. There are clips
provided to hold the unused rear seatbelts in place - ignore them at
your peril. Left dangling, the high-frequency flapping at anything
over 70km/h will surely drive you insane.
Personally speaking, I struggle to see the point of these kinds of
cars at the best of times. With a few notable exceptions, the only
proper convertibles are the ones that actually let you enjoy having
wind in your hair - bespoke sports cars like the Mazda MX-5 and
Porsche Boxster. Or indeed the natty new Mercedes-Benz SLK, which
manages to combine a folding roof with svelte rear styling and a fun-
-drive chassis.
Otherwise, all you've got is an open-top car that's less attractive,
less practical and a whole lot heavier than the hatch on which it's
(all-too-clearly) based. The regular 307 is a perfectly nice car -
but in the transformation to CC, Peugeot seems to have engineered
away most of the good bits and added $20k to the price.
Or perhaps the fault lies more with me than the car. I'm ill at ease
in the CC and I probably don't understand the appeal; if empirical
evidence is anything to go by, the 307 CC is really a car for brandconscious
Mademoiselles with big hair and even bigger sunglasses.
Presumably, they don't mind a load of stylistic and dynamic
compromise in exchange for the pleasure of a little low-speed opentop
motoring.
But as far I can see, you loose an awful lot to keep a proper lid on
your Peugeot convertible.
PEUGEOT 307 CC
How much? $53,990
Engine and transmission: 1997cc inline four with variable timing
producing 103kW at 6000rpm and 200Nm at 4000rpm. Four-speed
automatic, front-drive
How fast? 0-100km/h 12.0 seconds
Suspension and brakes: Struts front, torsion-beam rear. Ventilated
discs front, solid discs rear, anti-lock with force distribution,
brake assist and stability control
How big? 4357mm long, 1759mm wide, 1440mm high, 2608mm wheelbase.
Kerb weight 1573kg, luggage capacity 350/204 litres (roof up/down),
fuel tank 60 litres
Message 8
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 6:04am(PDT)
Subject: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust the front
then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the book? I
mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period while the
valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
BrianRodgers
On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat rate
> way
> of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise adjustment
> that way.
> Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use the
> front
> or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> closest
> to the flywheel)
> Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the hood, it can
> be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate engine
> 1/2
> turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4 intake, #
> 2
> exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust, rotate
> to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@gmail.com>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
>
> > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel XDS2. I
> > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I will go
> out
> > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the engine
> from
> > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> rocking
> > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> >
> > Done cold, very cold.
> >
> > BrianRodgers
> >
> > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey group-
> >>
> >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and it's
> >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even know if
> >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> >>
> >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is possible and
> >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change. Thanks...
> >>
> >> -matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> > --
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> > www.outfitnm.com
> > Our cool old machines:
> > 1981 Peugeot 505s TD
> > 1974 Mercedes 250
> > 1974 BMW Bavaria
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Our cool old machines:
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1974 Mercedes 250
1974 BMW Bavaria
1956 International Utility 460 Tractor
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Message 9
From: "alan5o5" alan5o5@hotmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 6:06am(PDT)
Subject: More on the Yaris French Connection
For those that like the styling of the Toyota Yaris, there is a reason for
it; it's French.
"Thanks to its new design studio in southern France, near Nice, Toyota's
recent models look distinctly Mediterranean. Its whimsical Yaris, which
starts at $12,000, exudes Latin flair with its cute snout and peppy stance.
"The first good result to come out of our effort was the Yaris," says Toyota
Motor Europe CEO Shuhei Toyoda, one of the founding family scions."
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_23/b3886177.htm
________________________________________________________________________
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Message 10
From: "Bob Bruce" bobbruce@mts.net
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 8:14am(PDT)
Subject: Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
I have NEVER successfully adjusted the valves on any Peugeot using the 'on
the rock'
method.
The factory proceedure described by Mike Aube is written up as the
prescribed method
in every Manual for Peugeots that I have seen over the last 35 years.
And when ever I did it some other way I always had to redo it according to
Hoyle.
And unless you do it according to the manual you will never know if your
engine might not run better
Bon
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Rodgers
To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust the
front
then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the book? I
mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period while the
valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
BrianRodgers
On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@idirect.com> wrote:
>
> Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat rate
> way
> of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
adjustment
> that way.
> Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use the
> front
> or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> closest
> to the flywheel)
> Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the hood, it
can
> be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate engine
> 1/2
> turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4 intake,
#
> 2
> exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust,
rotate
> to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@gmail.com>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
>
> > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel XDS2.
I
> > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I will go
> out
> > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the engine
> from
> > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> rocking
> > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> >
> > Done cold, very cold.
> >
> > BrianRodgers
> >
> > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey group-
> >>
> >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and it's
> >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even know if
> >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> >>
> >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is possible and
> >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change. Thanks...
> >>
> >> -matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > --
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> > Our cool old machines:
> > 1981 Peugeot 505s TD
> > 1974 Mercedes 250
> > 1974 BMW Bavaria
> > 1956 International Utility 460 Tractor
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Message 11
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 9:53am(PDT)
Subject: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
Sounds right to me. I will pop the valve cover this weekend and re-adjust
the valves.
Brian Rodgers
On 5/3/06, Bob Bruce <bobbruce@mts.net> wrote:
>
> I have NEVER successfully adjusted the valves on any Peugeot using the 'on
> the rock'
> method.
> The factory proceedure described by Mike Aube is written up as the
> prescribed method
> in every Manual for Peugeots that I have seen over the last 35 years.
> And when ever I did it some other way I always had to redo it according to
> Hoyle.
> And unless you do it according to the manual you will never know if your
> engine might not run better
>
> Bon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
On
> *From:* Brian Rodgers <brians.outfit@gmail.com>
> *To:* peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:04 AM
> *Subject:* [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
> No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust the
> front
> then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the book? I
> mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period while the
> valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
> BrianRodgers
>
On
> On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@idirect.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat rate
> > way
> > of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
> adjustment
> > that way.
> > Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> > Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> > rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use the
> > front
> > or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> > closest
> > to the flywheel)
> > Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the hood, it
> can
> > be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate engine
> > 1/2
> > turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4 intake,
> #
> > 2
> > exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust,
> rotate
> > to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> > ----- Original Message -----
On
> > From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@gmail.com>
> > To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> >
> >
> > > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel XDS2.
> I
> > > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I will go
> > out
> > > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the engine
> > from
> > > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> > rocking
> > > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> > >
> > > Done cold, very cold.
> > >
> > > BrianRodgers
> > >
On
> > > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey group-
> > >>
> > >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and it's
> > >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even know if
> > >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> > >>
> > >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is possible and
> > >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> > >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change. Thanks...
> > >>
> > >> -matt
> > >>
> > >>
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Message 12
From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@gmail.com
Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:50am(PDT)
Subject: 81' 505s TD speedo issues
Hi everyone.
I was so happy last month when I freed the speedometer where the cable goes
in. Not long afterward the needle began to jump and drop off at speed. I
opened the cluster a few weeks ago and put a drill on the drive and noted
perfect response, not jumpy like when driving. I assumed the cable was the
problem, I cleaned and lubed the speedo and re-installed it. Last evening I
pulled the speedo again, this time I examined the cable and its drive
socket. The socket where the cable end turns the speedo is tapered and
square. The cable end, I assume is supposed to be a similar shape, it is
not. I also assume that while the speedo was seized the cable end was still
turning, wore down to its present shape which is not seating in the speedo
socket. Aside from finding a new cable has anyone solved this problem with a
work-around? I slid a piece of heat shrink tube over the cable end to
increase its size. It is working but I don't guess it will last very long.
Conversely, I need a new or used cable which goes between the speedo and the
cruise control box. Anyone have one?
Brian Rodgers
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