[Peugeot-L] Re: Peugeot Day .... was Digest Number 2290
Has this been discussed on the list previously? Did I miss it! I
will try and make it if I can.
John
Langley, BC
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Bouffiou" <kbouffiou@...> wrote:
>
> Peugeot Day at the Pacific Rim Brewery! Just a reminder for any
> Northwesterners who can make it. On May 13th from 2:00 until 5:00 or so
> there will be a hosted beer party at the Pacific Rim Brewery in White
> Center, Seattle, WA. They have live music that night and food will be
> available all day. The link for addresses and directions is
> http://pacificrimbrewing.com/, and you can send any questions you
have to me
> at kbouffiou@... Although it isn't as cool as a Peugeot there will
> also be a track racing Porsche their with there crew. Questions
email me or
> call at 206-919-3525. Thanks, Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 12:06 PM
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Digest Number 2290
>
> There are 12 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. 404 dash removal
> From: "Todd Kelson" peugeot404a@...
> 2. Re: 404 dash removal
> From: "Mike Aube" maube@...
> 3. Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> From: "Mike Aube" maube@...
> 4. FS: 86 505 Gas turbo sedan on CL
> From: "t505sw" limonat@...
> 5. Reminder: PCNA Spring Meet @ Carlisle
> From: "pjschlick@..." pjschlick@...
> 6. Re: 404 dash removal
> From: "p404c" tippett@...
> 7. Peugeot 307 CC Review
> From: "hugo_steincamp" hsteincamp@...
> 8. 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
> 9. More on the Yaris French Connection
> From: "alan5o5" alan5o5@...
> 10. Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> From: "Bob Bruce" bobbruce@...
> 11. 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
> 12. 81' 505s TD speedo issues
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 1
> From: "Todd Kelson" peugeot404a@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 2:53pm(PDT)
> Subject: 404 dash removal
>
> I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned out
> bulbs. Any guidance out there?
> Todd Kelson
> 1968 404 Automatique
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 2
> From: "Mike Aube" maube@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 3:41pm(PDT)
> Subject: Re: 404 dash removal
>
> Reach in behind near the center of the instrument cluster, unscrew the
> speedo cable and the wingnut, lift the assembly up and out
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Kelson" <peugeot404a@...>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 5:52 PM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 404 dash removal
>
>
> > I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned out
> > bulbs. Any guidance out there?
> > Todd Kelson
> > 1968 404 Automatique
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message 3
> From: "Mike Aube" maube@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 4:03pm(PDT)
> Subject: Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
> Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat
rate way
> of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
adjustment
> that way.
> Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use
the front
>
> or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
closest
> to the flywheel)
> Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the hood,
it can
> be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate
engine 1/2
> turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4
intake, # 2
>
> exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust,
rotate
> to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
>
> > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel
XDS2. I
> > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I will
go out
> > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the
engine from
> > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
rocking
> > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> >
> > Done cold, very cold.
> >
> > BrianRodgers
> >
> > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey group-
> >>
> >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and it's
> >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even know if
> >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> >>
> >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is possible and
> >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change. Thanks...
> >>
> >> -matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Recommended format for your email subject lines:
> >> Model # [Model Letters] Year Subject
> >>
> >> Examples:
> >> 505 88 V6 Mileage
> >> 405 Mi16 89 Ignition Coil source?
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> >
> > --
> > High tech in the wild wild west.
> > www.outfitnm.com
> > Our cool old machines:
> > 1981 Peugeot 505s TD
> > 1974 Mercedes 250
> > 1974 BMW Bavaria
> > 1956 International Utility 460 Tractor
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > Recommended format for your email subject lines:
> > Model # [Model Letters] Year Subject
> >
> > Examples:
> > 505 88 V6 Mileage
> > 405 Mi16 89 Ignition Coil source?
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> Message 4
> From: "t505sw" limonat@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 4:17pm(PDT)
> Subject: FS: 86 505 Gas turbo sedan on CL
>
> Hi,
>
> Saw this on CL Bay Area, CA. It's an
> 86 505 Gas turbo sedan automatic $600.
>
> http://www.craigslist.org/eby/car/156287170.html
>
> Just passing it along -- not mine or anybody I know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --L
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 5
> From: "pjschlick@..." pjschlick@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 5:55pm(PDT)
> Subject: Reminder: PCNA Spring Meet @ Carlisle
>
> Just a reminder the the PCNA Spring Meet is at Carlisle, PA on May
19-21.
> Most people are there on Saturday, but some of us are there Friday and
> Sunday as
> well. We're usually located near the grandstand. Look for the
Peugeot flag
>
> flying high.
>
> If you're planning on coming, please register your car. Be sure to
mention
> Peugeot Club of North America (don't us an abbreviation like PCNA).
>
> You can register on-line at www.carsatcarlisle.com and look for the
Import
> Show.
>
> Please let us know if you're coming.
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to contact us at this e-mail
address or
>
> at 215 752 7178.
>
> Jim & Pam Schlick
> 1966 403B, 1966 404 Cabriolet Injection, 1967 404 Coupe Injection,
1968 404
> Sedan Automatique, 1968 204 Cabriolet, 1979 504 Diesel Sedan, 1991 Mi16,
> 1991
> 405 S, 1992 405 S
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 6
> From: "p404c" tippett@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 7:46pm(PDT)
> Subject: Re: 404 dash removal
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Kelson" <peugeot404a@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to lift off the speedo pod from my 404 to replace burned
> out
> > bulbs. Any guidance out there?
>
> The pod is held on by a wing nut IIRC, reach WAY under and undo it,
> then unscrew the speedo head, then remove. The 68 has plugs instead
> of the million spaghetti wires that the pre-67 model has, so that part
> should be easy.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mike Tippett
> 404 Coupé Injection
> 405 DL
> smart fortwo cdi cabriolet
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 7
> From: "hugo_steincamp" hsteincamp@...
> Date: Tue May 2, 2006 9:33pm(PDT)
> Subject: Peugeot 307 CC Review
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> 06/04/2006David Linklater
>
> Theoretically, the end-of-summer rainy season should be the time for
> a car like the Peugeot 307 CC to shine.
>
> Top-down motoring on summer days and balmy nights? Anybody can
> provide that. But convertible motoring on demand, with no compromise
> on safety and wet-weather protection, is still the preserve of the
> folding-roof coupe convertible (that's CC to you and I).
>
> In that context the facelifted CC is a fine effort. The complex
> folding-roof mechanism gives tin-top security and refinement, yet you
> can motor it up or down at the flip of a switch in 25 seconds. You
> can even operate it while the car is moving, at speeds of up to
> 10km/h - perfect if a downpour threatens and you're stranded in a
> traffic jam on the motorway.
>
> The roof locks are activated by an electronically controlled
> hydraulic system and are fully automatic. The roof assembly is
> manufactured by CTS, the same German company that supplies roof
> mechanisms for the Mercedes-Benz SLK and SL models.
>
> It's practical, too. The boot offers a sedan-like 350 litres when the
> roof's up. With the protective blind in place (the roof won't operate
> without it), you're left with a still-respectable 204 litres,
> although you'll need shallow luggage or soft bags to make the most of
> it.
>
> And yet the CC is a strangely unsatisfying exercise. The 307 is a
> perfectly nice small hatch - smart looking, spacious and relatively
> sharp on the road. The CC, er, isn't.
>
> Roof-down, the CC could almost be called elegant. The high waistline
> of the four-seat cabin forms a continuous line with the rear deck and
> the massive windscreen arches over the front seats in a dramatic,
> dare-to-be-different way.
>
> Roof-up - the way it's going to be for most of its working life - the
> CC is a design disaster. The excessively cab-forward profile and
> pudding-bowl roofline are awkward and the big fat arse (required to
> accommodate the folding roof mechanism) is, well, butt-ugly.
>
> You sit low in the CC, and you might as well stretch out because the
> rear seats are little more than a marketing exercise. The tapered
> cabin (that folding-roof mechanism again) means that the rear chairs
> are upright, extremely narrow and sans space for adult legs. Shame -
> although they're very handy for small packages.
>
> The addition of a new variable-valve-timed 2.0-litre engine to the CC
> is welcome. Although the power gain has been minimal (an extra 3kW
> and 10Nm) over the old mill, the improved flexibility has given the
> CC a new lease of life. In its previous guise, the 100kW 2.0-litre
> automatic powertrain really struggled with the bulk of this portly
> 1573kg machine. There was a 134kW version with manual transmission
> that had considerably more verve, but they couldn't give those away
> to Kiwi buyers; it's not a manual-gearbox kind of car, you see.
>
> As it stands, the new 103kW CC automatic has an acceptably lively
> feel and a harder edge at the top of the rev range than the old car,
> although it's still no traffic-light racer: in the 12-second sprint
> to 100km/h you'll be hard pressed to outrun a well-driven $20k
> supermini.
>
> The four-speed automatic transmission is responsive if you're
> pressing on like a fashion model who's late for a photo shoot, but
> awkward and indecisive in regular around-town running.
>
> The CC is the only 307 to have electronic stability control as
> standard (it's in a $1970 option pack, along with cruise control and
> alarm, on the hatch and SW versions). It's a system that monitors
> steering wheel angle, yaw speed and wheel speed, and can
> automatically adjust engine torque and individual brakes in order to
> correct a skid. Sensible bit of spec - not just because you expect
> such equipment on a $53,990 car, but because the CC needs it more
> than any other model in the lineup. It weighs a whopping 250kg more
> than the equivalent 307 hatch and you feel every kilogram on the open
> road.
>
> Decent steering feel and a pleasant low-speed ride are the CC's
> dynamic strong points. But on rough surfaces the car flexes and
> fusses, while at speed the extra bulk introduces sluggish handling
> responses and unwanted body roll. You can still feel the fluent
> chassis of a 307 lurking somewhere underneath - it's just that
> somewhere along the way they cut the roof off and added the
> equivalent of three burly blokes to the body structure.
>
> There are some pretty clever bits on the 307 CC. The plastic front
> wings (as per the other 307 models) are superbly practical for the
> inner-city driver, look past the styling and roof mechanism is neatly
> integrated into the body structure, the fingertip satellite controls
> for the audio are perfectly placed and the combination cruise/speed
> limiter (Citroens have it too) is dead-easy to use.
>
> But being a Peugeot, there are also the inevitable build-quality
> niggles. Our test car was cursed with squeaks and rattles, and the
> wobbly boot wouldn't click shut unless you laid your hand dead-centre
> on the lid to ensure it landed squarely on the latch. There are clips
> provided to hold the unused rear seatbelts in place - ignore them at
> your peril. Left dangling, the high-frequency flapping at anything
> over 70km/h will surely drive you insane.
>
> Personally speaking, I struggle to see the point of these kinds of
> cars at the best of times. With a few notable exceptions, the only
> proper convertibles are the ones that actually let you enjoy having
> wind in your hair - bespoke sports cars like the Mazda MX-5 and
> Porsche Boxster. Or indeed the natty new Mercedes-Benz SLK, which
> manages to combine a folding roof with svelte rear styling and a fun-
> to-drive chassis.
>
> Otherwise, all you've got is an open-top car that's less attractive,
> less practical and a whole lot heavier than the hatch on which it's
> (all-too-clearly) based. The regular 307 is a perfectly nice car -
> but in the transformation to CC, Peugeot seems to have engineered
> away most of the good bits and added $20k to the price.
>
> Or perhaps the fault lies more with me than the car. I'm ill at ease
> in the CC and I probably don't understand the appeal; if empirical
> evidence is anything to go by, the 307 CC is really a car for brand-
> conscious Mademoiselles with big hair and even bigger sunglasses.
> Presumably, they don't mind a load of stylistic and dynamic
> compromise in exchange for the pleasure of a little low-speed open-
> top motoring.
>
> But as far I can see, you loose an awful lot to keep a proper lid on
> your Peugeot convertible.
>
> PEUGEOT 307 CC
> How much? $53,990
> Engine and transmission: 1997cc inline four with variable timing
> producing 103kW at 6000rpm and 200Nm at 4000rpm. Four-speed
> automatic, front-drive
> How fast? 0-100km/h 12.0 seconds
> Suspension and brakes: Struts front, torsion-beam rear. Ventilated
> discs front, solid discs rear, anti-lock with force distribution,
> brake assist and stability control
> How big? 4357mm long, 1759mm wide, 1440mm high, 2608mm wheelbase.
> Kerb weight 1573kg, luggage capacity 350/204 litres (roof up/down),
> fuel tank 60 litres
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 8
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
> Date: Wed May 3, 2006 6:04am(PDT)
> Subject: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
> No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust
the front
> then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the book? I
> mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period
while the
> valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
> BrianRodgers
>
> On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@...> wrote:
> >
> > Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that flat
rate
> > way
> > of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
adjustment
> > that way.
> > Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> > Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> > rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can use the
> > front
> > or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> > closest
> > to the flywheel)
> > Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the
hood, it can
> > be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate
engine
> > 1/2
> > turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4
intake, #
> > 2
> > exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1
exhaust, rotate
> > to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
> > To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> >
> >
> > > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo diesel
XDS2. I
> > > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I
will go
> > out
> > > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the
engine
> > from
> > > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> > rocking
> > > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> > >
> > > Done cold, very cold.
> > >
> > > BrianRodgers
> > >
> > > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey group-
> > >>
> > >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on, and
it's
> > >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even
know if
> > >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> > >>
> > >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is
possible and
> > >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> > >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change.
Thanks...
> > >>
> > >> -matt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Recommended format for your email subject lines:
> > >> Model # [Model Letters] Year Subject
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> > >> 405 Mi16 89 Ignition Coil source?
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > High tech in the wild wild west.
> > > www.outfitnm.com
> > > Our cool old machines:
> > > 1981 Peugeot 505s TD
> > > 1974 Mercedes 250
> > > 1974 BMW Bavaria
> > > 1956 International Utility 460 Tractor
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> --
> High tech in the wild wild west.
> www.outfitnm.com
> Our cool old machines:
> 1981 Peugeot 505s TD
> 1974 Mercedes 250
> 1974 BMW Bavaria
> 1956 International Utility 460 Tractor
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 9
> From: "alan5o5" alan5o5@...
> Date: Wed May 3, 2006 6:06am(PDT)
> Subject: More on the Yaris French Connection
>
>
> For those that like the styling of the Toyota Yaris, there is a
reason for
> it; it's French.
>
>
> "Thanks to its new design studio in southern France, near Nice, Toyota's
> recent models look distinctly Mediterranean. Its whimsical Yaris, which
> starts at $12,000, exudes Latin flair with its cute snout and peppy
stance.
> "The first good result to come out of our effort was the Yaris,"
says Toyota
> Motor Europe CEO Shuhei Toyoda, one of the founding family scions."
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_23/b3886177.htm
>
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message 10
> From: "Bob Bruce" bobbruce@...
> Date: Wed May 3, 2006 8:14am(PDT)
> Subject: Re: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
> I have NEVER successfully adjusted the valves on any Peugeot using
the 'on
> the rock'
> method.
> The factory proceedure described by Mike Aube is written up as the
> prescribed method
> in every Manual for Peugeots that I have seen over the last 35 years.
> And when ever I did it some other way I always had to redo it
according to
> Hoyle.
> And unless you do it according to the manual you will never know if your
> engine might not run better
>
> Bon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Rodgers
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:04 AM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
>
> No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust the
> front
> then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the
book? I
> mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period
while the
> valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
> BrianRodgers
>
> On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@...> wrote:
> >
> > Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that
flat rate
> > way
> > of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
> adjustment
> > that way.
> > Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> > Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> > rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can
use the
> > front
> > or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> > closest
> > to the flywheel)
> > Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the
hood, it
> can
> > be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate
engine
> > 1/2
> > turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4
intake,
> #
> > 2
> > exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust,
> rotate
> > to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
> > To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> >
> >
> > > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo
diesel XDS2.
> I
> > > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I
will go
> > out
> > > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the
engine
> > from
> > > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> > rocking
> > > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> > >
> > > Done cold, very cold.
> > >
> > > BrianRodgers
> > >
> > > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@...> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hey group-
> > >>
> > >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on,
and it's
> > >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even
know if
> > >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> > >>
> > >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is
possible and
> > >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> > >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change.
Thanks...
> > >>
> > >> -matt
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> Message 11
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
> Date: Wed May 3, 2006 9:53am(PDT)
> Subject: 505 XD2 valve adjustment
>
> Sounds right to me. I will pop the valve cover this weekend and
re-adjust
> the valves.
> Brian Rodgers
>
> On 5/3/06, Bob Bruce <bobbruce@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have NEVER successfully adjusted the valves on any Peugeot using
the 'on
> > the rock'
> > method.
> > The factory proceedure described by Mike Aube is written up as the
> > prescribed method
> > in every Manual for Peugeots that I have seen over the last 35 years.
> > And when ever I did it some other way I always had to redo it
according to
> > Hoyle.
> > And unless you do it according to the manual you will never know
if your
> > engine might not run better
> >
> > Bon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Brian Rodgers <brians.outfit@...>
> > *To:* peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:04 AM
> > *Subject:* [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> >
> > No, not Haynes, that's what it says in the factory manual. Adjust the
> > front
> > then the back. Did I mess up my last adjustment by following the
book? I
> > mean, you can see the rocker become stationary for a long period
while the
> > valves are closed. I don't don't know, sorry about that.
> > BrianRodgers
> >
> > On 5/2/06, Mike Aube <maube@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Brian you must have a Haynes or Chilton book to give you that
flat rate
> > > way
> > > of adjusting valves, I've never had any luck getting a precise
> > adjustment
> > > that way.
> > > Peugeot's suggestion for procedure:
> > > Cool engine min. 6 hrs
> > > rotate engine untill exhaust valve # 1 is fully open ( you can
use the
> > > front
> > > or rear cylinder as # 1, the french way is that # 1 is the cylinder
> > > closest
> > > to the flywheel)
> > > Adjust intake valve # 3 (.004 or .006" read the tag under the
hood, it
> > can
> > > be either for the diesel), then adjust #4 exhaust 0.010", rotate
engine
> > > 1/2
> > > turn untill # 3 exhaust valve is completely open, then adjust #4
intake,
> > #
> > > 2
> > > exhaust, rotate to #4 exhaust open, adjust # 2 intake, # 1 exhaust,
> > rotate
> > > to # 2 exhaust open, adjust #1 intake and # 3 exhaust
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Rodgers" <brians.outfit@...>
> > > To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:45 AM
> > > Subject: [Peugeot-L] 505 XD2 valve adjustment
> > >
> > >
> > > > Very easy to adjust valves. I just did my 1981 505s turbo
diesel XDS2.
> > I
> > > > think the book said for the XD2 intake and exhaust are .010 I
will go
> > > out
> > > > and look in the book unless someone else chimes in. Rotate the
engine
> > > from
> > > > the solenoid by the fuse box. Get the the valves for the front two
> > > rocking
> > > > free and adjust them rotate engine and do the back two.
> > > >
> > > > Done cold, very cold.
> > > >
> > > > BrianRodgers
> > > >
> > > > On 5/1/06, blade44m <zaphod44@...> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey group-
> > > >>
> > > >> My 1980 505 SD's XD2 motor has some valve tapping going on,
and it's
> > > >> occured to me that I've never adjusted the lash. I don't even
know if
> > > >> this car has hydrolic lifters or not...
> > > >>
> > > >> Could someone please tell me what type of adjustment is
possible and
> > > >> what the specs are? Also, this car uses alot of oil and I was
> > > >> wondering if the valve seals are something I could change.
Thanks...
> > > >>
> > > >> -matt
> > > >>
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> Message 12
> From: "Brian Rodgers" brians.outfit@...
> Date: Wed May 3, 2006 10:50am(PDT)
> Subject: 81' 505s TD speedo issues
>
> Hi everyone.
> I was so happy last month when I freed the speedometer where the
cable goes
> in. Not long afterward the needle began to jump and drop off at speed. I
> opened the cluster a few weeks ago and put a drill on the drive and
noted
> perfect response, not jumpy like when driving. I assumed the cable
was the
> problem, I cleaned and lubed the speedo and re-installed it. Last
evening I
> pulled the speedo again, this time I examined the cable and its drive
> socket. The socket where the cable end turns the speedo is tapered and
> square. The cable end, I assume is supposed to be a similar shape, it is
> not. I also assume that while the speedo was seized the cable end
was still
> turning, wore down to its present shape which is not seating in the
speedo
> socket. Aside from finding a new cable has anyone solved this
problem with a
> work-around? I slid a piece of heat shrink tube over the cable end to
> increase its size. It is working but I don't guess it will last very
long.
> Conversely, I need a new or used cable which goes between the speedo
and the
> cruise control box. Anyone have one?
> Brian Rodgers
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