[Peugeot-L] Re: Forum vs Mailing List - II
The better forums have features where you can choose to get instant
email notifications of replies to a thread you're subscribed to. This
way you won't be bombarded constantly by every reply, only the ones
you're interested in. Isn't that for the better?
The real problem with this list is:
- The search function is totally useless. Vectorbd was great with
the archive and search. This list went into the dark ages when it
went to yahoo groups.
- Default setting is reply to the author of the thread, not to the
list. This coupled with #1 makes it a PITA to use.
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Ruggeri, Robert"
<Robert.Ruggeri@s...> wrote:
> Sorry - I hit the send button by accident......
>
> I agree with Tony O. I belong to several forums (Jaguar, music,
etc.) and don't use them nearly as mcuh as this one (or other lists
I'm on) because you have to go out of your way to acccess them. Many
of us have email on all day and every time someone on this list sends
a message, I see it instantly. Very handy and it makes it that much
easier to stay involved. That's the way the LandCruiser list is set
up and people are talking back and forth all day long. That is one of
the most productive car groups out there.
>
> I agree that we're on the verge of splintering and scattering a
tiny group of Peugeot owners. I own 4 of these cars and can't work
on them myself. For 20 years I've been plagued by the most
incompetent mechanics from Washngton DC to upstate New York and most
places in between. Without this group, well-meaning supporters of
the marque like me would have to trash these cars. Even getting parts
is often impossible with recourse to this list.
>
> Did this all start because someone else sent an errant email to one
person instead of the whole group? Talk about the tail wagging the
dog......
>
> I'm sure we can work something out
>
> Bob Ruggeri
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of Tony O
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:37 PM
> To: webmaster@5...
> Cc: peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Forum vs Mailing List - (Was this list sucks or
> some such silliness)
>
>
> <testing, testing...is this thing on?>
>
> Just want to throw in my two cents having been a frequent member of
both types.
>
> I find that mailing lists are much more helpful in general. If you
> are willing to get email in your inbox than your interest in said
> subject is much greater and participation tends to be more regular
> than if you just post or read a forum.
>
>
> The most pertinent example I can personally give is this. I've used
> both the saabnet and peugoet L rather extensively in my time on the
> internet (96 onwards) and I find the Peugeot list to be a much more
> useful resource. Nothing against the saabnet, but despite having
way
> more people who use that *forum*, the people on here are much more
> helfpul and useful. I think that is due in part to the format.
That
> is not to say, there aren't some very active and useful forums, but
I
> tend to think (like I mentioned) that ACTIVE participation in
mailing
> list (vs passive of forums)makes the people on here much more
willing
> to help or offer their opinions. In short a list format is more of
a
> community and the only reason most lists turn to forums or
newsgroups
> is that they have outgrown the list format.
>
> Secondly and probably even more importantly...the amount of Peugeot
> knowledge out there is decreasing everyday. We are talking about
old
> cars, who everyday there are less and less of on the road. I'm sure
> all of you can remember very knowledgable and helpful peugeot owners
> who are no longer on this list because they no longer own peugeots.
> That knowledge once lost is gone forever for the most part (yeah,
> there are archives). There isn't much you can do to stop this but I
> feel that splintering off the relatively small knowledge base will
> only expedite the process. I can honestly say that if it weren't
for
> this list, I wouldn't be a peugeot owner, much less have bought a
> second one.
>
> The forum idea just seems like a complete over reaction to a minor
> *problem*? because you all don't know or want to use email
software
> that functions a certain way, you are willing to risk splintering an
> already small amout of knowledge and I for one think that IMO, that
is
> a bad idea. What we will have is to sub par knowledge bases instead
> of one...
>
> Of course, I udnerstand that you guys will still likely do it, but I
> just ask that people *think* about it before doing so.
>
> <end soapbox mode>
> -Tony
>
> On 6/28/05, 505turbo.com webmaster <captain@5...> wrote:
> > We've been meaning to setup a forum on our site for a while now.
Seeing
> > that there is in fact a demand for it, I'll try to expedite the
process.
> >
> > I'll post a link to the list when ready.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > ~webmaster@5...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, June 27, 2005 8:28 pm, Brian J White wrote:
> > > Heck, I have no objections to a forum. If someone wants to
set one
> > > up... Peugeot-l has been around since 1995 was it? or 96....
> > >
> > >
> > > At 20:24 2005-06-27, coupe404 wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'd love to leave this archaic format behind too. It bites,
man!
> > >> Bring on the forum!!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Woo hoo!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mike Tippett
> > >> 404 Coupé Injection
> > >> 405 DL
> > >> smart fortwo cdi cabriolet
> > >>
> > >> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Leung"
<firepiston@f...>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> That's great news August. I'll be the first to sign up.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: august <august.macbeth@g...>
> > >>> Date: Monday, Jun 27, 2005 1:35 pm
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Yahoo groups or this Peugeot-L
> > >>>
> > >> sucks!!!!!!!!!!
> > >>>
> > >>> I've suggested a forum a few times but the idea always gets
poo
> > >>> poo'd. BUT there is one in the works and will be available
for whoever
> > >>> wants
> > >> to use it soon.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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