Thanks again guys.
This afternoon I jumped the the small connector on the starter (the one the
ignition switch trips). I did this by connecting directly to the battery.
Unfortunately, I could hear a click in the solenoid but the starter motor
did not turn over. I immediatley jumped the motor from battery and it
turned over, so I am left to believe it's the solenoid. Since the motor
spins when jumped directly to battery, I think the battery is fine. This is
a nice sealed battery with over 900 CA. Anyhow, I guess my next step is to
pull the starter and do some bench testing. I may actually pull the starter
off the 85 505TD that has been sitting for almost a year now (it won't miss
it) and then I will test the starter at a later date.
Have a great weekend and thanks for all your advice.
-Tony O
On 6/24/06, Jim Bartley <pei505turbo@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> It sounds to me, if the glow light comes on and goes off for the right
> period, and the solenoid moves, that everything is working more or less, but
> there isn't enough juice going through the circuit to turn over the engine.
> A diesel is high compression compared to a gas engine, and it takes a lot of
> concentrated CCA to make it spin. Exactly the same thing a week ago with the
> battery down on my 86 505TD wagon after it blew the alternator belt, and I
> had to start it and drive it for about an hour to get where I had to go with
> it.
>
> After an hour driving and then shut down, it would not re-start, and would
> not even turn over with a cable boost battery to battery (although the glow
> plug/solenoid action was there). Battery to starter directly finally worked.
> That makes me think that there are some corrosion issues at spots in the
> electrical circuits on my car. Likely, check/clean battery connections,
> recharge battery a bit, consider cleaning the various cables where joining
> starter etc, and of course, the sage advice offered by Brian Holm and Bob
> Bruce below.
>
> cheers!
> Jim Bartley on PEI
> 86 505 S Turbodiesel automatic wagon
> 87 505 Turbo gas automatic sedan
> ==between the two of them, one entirely perfectly working car==
>
>
> @gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Brian. I may try this but I'm beggining to think that my starter
> solenoid may be the culprit. Bob Bruce was kind enough to send me diagram
> of starter relay configuration and this afternoon, I installed one. The
> first time I went to start the car, the glow plug light came on for the
> full
> period (first time in a long time) and I thought everything would be cool,
> but alas when I turned the key to the start position, could just hear the
> click of relay and solenoid but the starter motor would not turn. Didn't
> have any more time to diagnos further as I was running late. I will likely
> try and clean up grounds, etc. tomorrow and see if that doesn't remedy the
> situation. Brian, would a starter pushbutton be much different than adding
> a starter relay?
> I mean, if solenoid is bad (though I can feel it click) it won't help
> right? Is there a way to test the solenoid or motor electrically using
> voltmeter? (remember motor turns when jumped directly to battery).
>
> thanks again to everyone for their suggestions.
> -Tony
>
> *****
>
> Tony, Losses through the ignition switch circuit should not exceed
> one volt. You can take the electrical section off the back of the
> ignition switch and clean it, or replace the switch, which might
> help, but why not just install a starter pushbutton? You just need
> to be sure you are not in gear when pushing the button.
>
> Brian Holm
>
> At 11:13 PM 6/22/2006, Tony O wrote:
> >Hey all,
> >
> >been a while since I posted, mainly because I haven't been driving
> >either of my peugeots : (
> >
> >With the addition of a biodiesel station here in town, I've been
> >inspired once again to get one of these up and running. My problem is
> >a no start problem. I've done a bit of research, peered over the
> >electric manual (albeit for the 85 model) and done a bit of testing
> >with a multimeter. I was wondering if someone could possibly explain
> >in detail but in layman's terms what happens when you turn the switch.
> >
> >I suspect my ignition switch may be faulty, but I am not sure how to
> >further test it. A close inspection of it, shows 4 larger wires
> >leading to harness and two thin black wires, not sure where those
> >lead. I'd like to know which wires I should test and what I should be
> >looking for.
> >
> >Here is what I know. When I turn the ignition switch to run, the glow
> >plug light does NOT stay on. It comes on momentarily (one sec or
> >less) and then turns off. I can hear the accesory relay and the glow
> >plug relay click. I decided that I would test the glow plug relay and
> >find that it does power on for about 12 secs., however I am unsure if
> >the glow plugs are recieving current. (I will check this tomorrow).
> >When I turn the key to the start position, I can hear and feel the
> >starter solenoid click as well, however the starter motor does not
> >turn over at all. I have jumped the starter motor by connecting
> >directly to the battery and it does turnover. I have also tested the
> >voltage at the small wire/terminal on the starter solenoid ( I assume
> >this comes from the ignition switch?) and it reads a little less than
> >6 volts. Once again, I am guessing that it should recieve 12V? This
> >is part of the reason I think it's my ignition switch. Can anyone
> >verify my findings?
>
> Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
> at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
> 2120 Maple Hill
> Plainfield, VT, 05667
> 802-454-7132, fax -1310
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