Wow you have a 1985 Turbo Diesel wagon that has been sitting? What is wrong
with it? I'd die for a diesel wagon. I am in the process of converting my
computer business to a mobile service business. We have been making
biodiesel since Winter. I want to use our homemade fuel to power our service
vehicle. Right now my wife and I are sharing the 1981 505s turbo diesel,
which I might add is such a sweet car that I can barely get it away from her
lately. We need another diesel. A wagon! I was thinking a 4X4 for service
calls because this is mountains here in New Mexico, but a wagon may be
perfect. Anyone else have Peugeots needing resurrection?
I am glad you got my idea to work. Don't sweat this little stuff. to test
the battery connections simply bypass them with jumper cables. I know there
are a lot of people here that are currently mechanics and they know more
than I, but electricity especially low voltage electricity is where I
shine. Twenty years of computers and electronics after I left the auto
mechanics field. I was a factory trained VW mechanic, always loved foreign
cars.
Brian Rodgers
On 6/24/06, Brian Holm <peugeots@vtlink.net> wrote:
>
> Tony, don't assume the battery and cables are fine because the
> starter motor spins under no load--that doesn't take much voltage or
> current. Put a charger on it! Or jump it with another car,
> preferably running. Or, check the standing voltage -- It should be at
> least 12.5v, and then check the voltage drop when you turn on the
> high beams, heater fan, radio full blast, and spin the starter motor
> -- it should not drop more than one or two volts.
>
> Pulling the starter is a lot of work. Just make sure it's not the
> battery before you do it!
>
> Brian Holm
>
>
> At 07:49 PM 6/24/2006, Tony O wrote:
>
> >Thanks again guys.
> >
> >This afternoon I jumped the the small connector on the starter (the one
> the
> >ignition switch trips). I did this by connecting directly to the battery.
> >Unfortunately, I could hear a click in the solenoid but the starter motor
> >did not turn over. I immediatley jumped the motor from battery and it
> >turned over, so I am left to believe it's the solenoid. Since the motor
> >spins when jumped directly to battery, I think the battery is fine. This
> is
> >a nice sealed battery with over 900 CA. Anyhow, I guess my next step is
> to
> >pull the starter and do some bench testing. I may actually pull the
> starter
> >off the 85 505TD that has been sitting for almost a year now (it won't
> miss
> >it) and then I will test the starter at a later date.
> >
> >Have a great weekend and thanks for all your advice.
> >-Tony O
> >
> >On 6/24/06, Jim Bartley
> ><<mailto:pei505turbo%40yahoo.ca>pei505turbo@yahoo.ca<pei505turbo%40yahoo.ca>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > It sounds to me, if the glow light comes on and goes off for the right
> > > period, and the solenoid moves, that everything is working more
> > or less, but
> > > there isn't enough juice going through the circuit to turn over the
> engine.
> > > A diesel is high compression compared to a gas engine, and it
> > takes a lot of
> > > concentrated CCA to make it spin. Exactly the same thing a week
> > ago with the
> > > battery down on my 86 505TD wagon after it blew the alternator belt,
> and I
> > > had to start it and drive it for about an hour to get where I had
> > to go with
> > > it.
> > >
> > > After an hour driving and then shut down, it would not re-start, and
> would
> > > not even turn over with a cable boost battery to battery (although the
> glow
> > > plug/solenoid action was there). Battery to starter directly
> > finally worked.
> > > That makes me think that there are some corrosion issues at spots in
> the
> > > electrical circuits on my car. Likely, check/clean battery
> connections,
> > > recharge battery a bit, consider cleaning the various cables where
> joining
> > > starter etc, and of course, the sage advice offered by Brian Holm and
> Bob
> > > Bruce below.
> > >
> > > cheers!
> > > Jim Bartley on PEI
> > > 86 505 S Turbodiesel automatic wagon
> > > 87 505 Turbo gas automatic sedan
> > > ==between the two of them, one entirely perfectly working car==
> > >
> > >
> > > @gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Brian. I may try this but I'm beggining to think that my
> starter
> > > solenoid may be the culprit. Bob Bruce was kind enough to send me
> diagram
> > > of starter relay configuration and this afternoon, I installed one.
> The
> > > first time I went to start the car, the glow plug light came on for
> the
> > > full
> > > period (first time in a long time) and I thought everything would be
> cool,
> > > but alas when I turned the key to the start position, could just hear
> the
> > > click of relay and solenoid but the starter motor would not turn.
> Didn't
> > > have any more time to diagnos further as I was running late. I will
> likely
> > > try and clean up grounds, etc. tomorrow and see if that doesn't remedy
> the
> > > situation. Brian, would a starter pushbutton be much different than
> adding
> > > a starter relay?
> > > I mean, if solenoid is bad (though I can feel it click) it won't help
> > > right? Is there a way to test the solenoid or motor electrically using
> > > voltmeter? (remember motor turns when jumped directly to battery).
> > >
> > > thanks again to everyone for their suggestions.
> > > -Tony
> > >
> > > *****
> > >
> > > Tony, Losses through the ignition switch circuit should not exceed
> > > one volt. You can take the electrical section off the back of the
> > > ignition switch and clean it, or replace the switch, which might
> > > help, but why not just install a starter pushbutton? You just need
> > > to be sure you are not in gear when pushing the button.
> > >
> > > Brian Holm
> > >
> > > At 11:13 PM 6/22/2006, Tony O wrote:
> > > >Hey all,
> > > >
> > > >been a while since I posted, mainly because I haven't been driving
> > > >either of my peugeots : (
> > > >
> > > >With the addition of a biodiesel station here in town, I've been
> > > >inspired once again to get one of these up and running. My problem is
> > > >a no start problem. I've done a bit of research, peered over the
> > > >electric manual (albeit for the 85 model) and done a bit of testing
> > > >with a multimeter. I was wondering if someone could possibly explain
> > > >in detail but in layman's terms what happens when you turn the
> switch.
> > > >
> > > >I suspect my ignition switch may be faulty, but I am not sure how to
> > > >further test it. A close inspection of it, shows 4 larger wires
> > > >leading to harness and two thin black wires, not sure where those
> > > >lead. I'd like to know which wires I should test and what I should be
> > > >looking for.
> > > >
> > > >Here is what I know. When I turn the ignition switch to run, the glow
> > > >plug light does NOT stay on. It comes on momentarily (one sec or
> > > >less) and then turns off. I can hear the accesory relay and the glow
> > > >plug relay click. I decided that I would test the glow plug relay and
> > > >find that it does power on for about 12 secs., however I am unsure if
> > > >the glow plugs are recieving current. (I will check this tomorrow).
> > > >When I turn the key to the start position, I can hear and feel the
> > > >starter solenoid click as well, however the starter motor does not
> > > >turn over at all. I have jumped the starter motor by connecting
> > > >directly to the battery and it does turnover. I have also tested the
> > > >voltage at the small wire/terminal on the starter solenoid ( I assume
> > > >this comes from the ignition switch?) and it reads a little less than
> > > >6 volts. Once again, I am guessing that it should recieve 12V? This
> > > >is part of the reason I think it's my ignition switch. Can anyone
> > > >verify my findings?
> > >
>
> Brian Holm, Parts for Peugeots
> at Peugeot Holm, since 1969
> 2120 Maple Hill
> Plainfield, VT, 05667
> 802-454-7132, fax -1310
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