RE: [Peugeot-L] 504 XN2 Super Rich mixture

From: gary freeman <riven2649_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 07/15/05


  You're not supposed to, but you can adjust control   pressure. There's a round, about a 1/2 inch recessed   "dowel or pin", black in color if I remember, that   you can tap down until you get the control pressure   you want. No one has mentioned that you need a   special set of fuel guages to check CIS pressures   which are not only high pressure, but also have two   hoses and a valve to open and close so that you can   check primary and control pressure. Primary pressure   on the Peugeot should be 80-90psi if I remember   correctly, and cold control pressure varies with   temperature(usually high 20's in normal weather)   and is around 50psi warm. You can also check exhaust   without a CO machine by putting a meter that reads   frequency on the wire that's loose behind the   windshield washer bottle on the driver's side of the   car(if my memory serves me) and adjust the CO with   that 3mm allen that was mentioned in another post   until the meter reads 56% (again I think that's   correct).Basically, you're using the system's own   feedback (the O2 sensor), to tell how accurate the   fuel mixture is by reading what signal is being   sent to the frequency valve. The frequency valve is   a pulsed return valve that changes pressure in the   lower chambers of the fuel distributor, thereby   altering pressure in the upper chambers which changes
  mixture strength. This is the Lambda Sond part of   K-Jetronic. Also, in checking this post I noticed   that I didn't remember to say that the "dowel or   pin" I mentioned is on the control pressure reg.   This is very nostalgic as it's been along time since   working on CIS which I always liked as it was simple   and clever, reliable as long as you kept your fuel   clean, had only two moving parts; but it wasn't   accurate enough to contend with ever tightening   emmision standards and CAFE standards.

  Gary

  • Karydas <karydas@hol.gr> wrote:

>
> What they measured was the pressure going into the
> injection pump. I
> think the manual calls for measuring it at the
> electrovalve.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Alex Zepeda <alex.zepeda@gmail.com>
> Date: Jul 15, 2005 12:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 504 XN2 Super Rich mixture
> To: Ben Pender <ben_pender@yahoo.com>
>
>
> On 7/14/05, Ben Pender <ben_pender@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > It also matters quite a bit where the pressure
> and
> > flow are measured.
>
> Yes. Keep in mind there are two critical pressures
> with K-Jet. The
> line pressure (to the injectors) and the control
> pressure (to the
> plungers).
>
> The control pressure should be (IIRC) significantly
> less than the line
> pressure, and it should vary depending on any number
> of conditions
> (depending on what the CPR is designed to react to).
> The line
> pressure should be stable, period. If it's not, the
> accumulator has
> probably failed. The control pressure can't really
> be adjusted (but
> the CPRs, especially the early ones, can be cleaned
> pretty easily).
> The line pressure can be adjusted with shims in the
> fuel distributor,
> but the main pumps do wear out, eventually.
>
> --
> alex
>
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