Re: [Peugeot-L] 504 XN2 Super Rich mixture

From: Alex Zepeda <alex.zepeda_at_gmail.com>
Date: 07/15/05

On 7/15/05, gary freeman <riven2649@yahoo.com> wrote:

> You're not supposed to, but you can adjust control
> pressure.

Depends on the CPR. On most of the Volvo ones I've seen, there is no adjustment to be made.

> No one has mentioned that you need a
> special set of fuel guages to check CIS pressures

You don't really. You need a gauge which can read fairly high pressures (100+ PSI I think). You'll need some somewhat odd (for the US anyways) fittings, but those are pretty easy to source too. JC Whitney (in the US) sells a gauge kit to check K-Jet pressure for about $60. Very much worth it if one plans on doing any work with a K-Jet car.

> which are not only high pressure, but also have two
> hoses and a valve to open and close so that you can
> check primary and control pressure.

These can be checked on the fuel distributor and CPR directly, no need for a special gauge.

> You can also check exhaust
> without a CO machine by putting a meter that reads
> frequency on the wire

Right. You want to set your DMM to measure duty cycle. The only real downside to this is that you're dependent on a properly functioning oxygen sensor. Using a CO probe is, from what I've heard, the far more accurate way to do this.

> This is the Lambda Sond part of K-Jetronic.

Yup. Introduced in the 1977 or 1978 California spec Volvo 240.

> This is very nostalgic as it's been along time since
> working on CIS which I always liked as it was simple
> and clever, reliable as long as you kept your fuel
> clean, had only two moving parts; but it wasn't
> accurate enough to contend with ever tightening
> emmision standards and CAFE standards.

Quite frankly, I loathe K-Jetronic (Volvo co-opeted the acronym CIS for their Constant Idle System, so I like to use K-Jet to avoid confusing myself).

The moving parts are quite Rube Goldberg like. It's not very robust (irregular fuel pressure and vacuum leaks will cause any number of problems), and it chokes the power out of the motors. Volvo lost a few HP going from D-Jet to K-Jet on their 140 models, and I remember reading about some of the high perfo Euro makes (Porsche, Lamo, Ferrari, etc) putting out really detuned cars w/ K-Jet (and blaming it on fuel injection in general, or smog requirements). Simply put the K-Jet air flow metering device is a big restriction in the intake path.

Check out some of the later CPRs used to meet smog requirements. Dual heating elements, altitude compensation, check valves, the works. It's nuts. What would simply require some retweaked firmware with an EFI system, requires lots of fiddly contraptions with K-Jet. The contraptions themselves aren't so unreliable, but because they're run with hydraulic pressure from the fuel, they do tend to gum up and get nasty.

LH-Jetronic is where my heart is. Diagnostic tools basically consist of a more standard fuel pressure gauge (lower pressure), and a cheap multimeter. It's quite reliable, durable, and (in my experience) simple to fix. Plus using a hot-wire (or hot film) AMM means that you've got one less intake restriction.

-- 
alex


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Received on Fri Jul 15 17:04:23 2005