Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: 505 turbo 86 intermittent working starter

From: gary freeman <riven2649_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 07/16/05


  I'm most familiar with Bosch relays and numbering   the German way, but you can use even GM relays.   Some guys have used 3 prong relays, but I always   used 4 prong. The different male spades coming out   of the relay have two in parallel side by side with   two facing the other way straddling the first pair.   The two side by side are numbered 85 and 86 and are   the trigger set, the other two are 30 which is B+   and 87 which goes to the starter solenoid. The wire   that normally goes to the starter solenoid from the   ignition switch goes to 85 or 86. The one of 85 or 86
  that you didn't use, attach it to a ground wire that   you make up and mount to any ground that's easy to   get to and close to the relay. You make up another   wire that you attach to 30 and the other side to   the battery pos post(that's best) or another easy   place to get a full 12 volts. Relays use little   current in the switching coil and when the points   are closed can deliver alot more current between   30 and 87. Make up another wire that goes from 87   to the starter solenoid and then mount the relay   along the inner fender apron or wherever is convenient.    Now, when you turn the ignition to start,   it sends current to the relay coil, the other side   which is grounded;and the magnetism that's created   by the current flowing through the coil pulls the   points into closed position thereby allowing current   to flow from B+ to 30 which is connected by the   points to 87 which is attached to the starter   solenoid. Now you have a full 12 volts to the starter
  solenoid even if your ignition switch doesn't have   a full 12 volt signal as it only needs a small amount
  to activate the relay.

  It's not a difficult job and your local parts store   should have a relay that would work; and now that you
  know what's going on inside the relay, I think you'll
  know how to use any brand of relay.

  Good luck.

  Gary

  • jean-paul mineur <lorrains@videotron.ca> wrote:

> Hello Gary
> Could you explain how you install the relay ,and
> what kind of relay, to hook
> the solenoid wire ?
> Thank you
> Jean-Paul
> ----- Original Message ----- On
> From: "gary freeman" <riven2649@yahoo.com>
> To: "the505inme" <the505inme@yahoo.ca>;
> <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: 505 turbo 86
> intermittent working starter
>
>
> > If it starts when you're jumping it, then it's
> not
> > the starter. The previous post about battery
> > connections is probably correct. The other thing
> we
> > used to do because of hard to find problems such
> as
> > weak ignition switches was to hook the solenoid
> wire
> > to a relay we installed so that you would always
> get
> > 12 volts to the solenoid.
> >
> > --- the505inme <the505inme@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> I once had the same problem with my 86 turbo. I
> >> found that my
> >> positive battery cable was corroded on the inside
> 4
> >> inches from the
> >> terminal. I replaced the wire, 4 years ago, and
> >> never had trouble
> >> again.
> >>
> >> My point is, it always pays to start with the
> >> basics!
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, jean-paul
> mineur
> >> <lorrains@v...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello everybody
> >> > Could somebody help me to solve this problem: I
> >> have an
> >> intermittent problem on my starter. When the
> weather
> >> is hot and
> >> humid, it most of the time doesn t work and I
> have
> >> to jump the
> >> solenoid switch connector and the positif
> directly
> >> on the starter
> >> with a screwdriver to start the engine.
> >> > I changed the starter, starter relay (not new),
> >> checked connectors
> >> between starter and starter relay, nothing
> changes.
> >> At the same time
> >> when I turn the key to the start position, the
> >> heater fan comes on at
> >> high speed. However the fan works correctly when
> >> engine is running.
> >> This could be an unrelated problem. I have the
> >> electrical manual
> >> classe 12.
> >> > Any suggestion?
> >> > Thanks a lot
> >> > Jean-Paul
> >> > Montreal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> >> removed]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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