All of that is good info.
I put one on that is shaped like the old one's Ford used to use.
I drew the power from the hot wire on the starter (the one that the battery cable is
attached to and that has the big nut).
I found a dandy location for mounting- where the vacuum control unit for the
cruise control connects (near the coil and strut tower). (turbo). It has two small studs
and two 8mm nuts. I took a piece of metal strip, the kind that have predrilled holes,
about 1/2" in width by about 4" in length, and mounted it under that cruise vacuum
unit, so that it is sticking out, going toward the rear of the car. Then I attached my
relay to that. That way I didn't have to drill any holes in the car, and there was plenty
of room for the relay.
That location was nice, because I was able to take the solenoid wire coming out of
the firewall (the one that triggers the solenoid and goes back to the key switch) and
connect it to my relay without cutting or lengthening). Plus the power lead does not
need to be that long, as it is coming from the starter.
Then it was just a matter of running a new trigger wire from the relay to the
solenoid, and then a ground.
I remember when I was a tire buster right out of high school and I was working at
the local auto center at the time. I was driving a '68 Mercury Park Lane. Fastest car I
ever had, but really sucked the gas.
Anyway, it was a very cold day, and they were trying to get ahold of me to come into
work because they were busy with people needing batteries and things. My car
wouldn't start. I told my boss what the car was doing, where it wouldn't crank or
anything. He said to take a screwdriver and short the two small terminals at the top of
the relay. Car started right up. What had happened was, the neutral safety switch on
the steering column had failed, where the plastic had broken off while in drive.
-Bill
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, gary freeman <riven2649@y...> wrote:
> I'm most familiar with Bosch relays and numbering
> the German way, but you can use even GM relays.
> Some guys have used 3 prong relays, but I always
> used 4 prong. The different male spades coming out
> of the relay have two in parallel side by side with
> two facing the other way straddling the first pair.
> The two side by side are numbered 85 and 86 and are
> the trigger set, the other two are 30 which is B+
> and 87 which goes to the starter solenoid. The wire
> that normally goes to the starter solenoid from the
> ignition switch goes to 85 or 86. The one of 85 or
> 86
> that you didn't use, attach it to a ground wire that
> you make up and mount to any ground that's easy to
> get to and close to the relay. You make up another
> wire that you attach to 30 and the other side to
> the battery pos post(that's best) or another easy
> place to get a full 12 volts. Relays use little
> current in the switching coil and when the points
> are closed can deliver alot more current between
> 30 and 87. Make up another wire that goes from 87
> to the starter solenoid and then mount the relay
> along the inner fender apron or wherever is con-
> venient. Now, when you turn the ignition to start,
> it sends current to the relay coil, the other side
> which is grounded;and the magnetism that's created
> by the current flowing through the coil pulls the
> points into closed position thereby allowing current
> to flow from B+ to 30 which is connected by the
> points to 87 which is attached to the starter
> solenoid. Now you have a full 12 volts to the
> starter
> solenoid even if your ignition switch doesn't have
> a full 12 volt signal as it only needs a small
> amount
> to activate the relay.
>
> It's not a difficult job and your local parts store
> should have a relay that would work; and now that
> you
> know what's going on inside the relay, I think
> you'll
> know how to use any brand of relay.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Gary
>
> --- jean-paul mineur <lorrains@v...> wrote:
>
> > Hello Gary
> > Could you explain how you install the relay ,and
> > what kind of relay, to hook
> > the solenoid wire ?
> > Thank you
> > Jean-Paul
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "gary freeman" <riven2649@y...>
> > To: "the505inme" <the505inme@y...>;
> > <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: 505 turbo 86
> > intermittent working starter
> >
> >
> > > If it starts when you're jumping it, then it's
> > not
> > > the starter. The previous post about battery
> > > connections is probably correct. The other thing
> > we
> > > used to do because of hard to find problems such
> > as
> > > weak ignition switches was to hook the solenoid
> > wire
> > > to a relay we installed so that you would always
> > get
> > > 12 volts to the solenoid.
> > >
> > > --- the505inme <the505inme@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I once had the same problem with my 86 turbo. I
> > >> found that my
> > >> positive battery cable was corroded on the inside
> > 4
> > >> inches from the
> > >> terminal. I replaced the wire, 4 years ago, and
> > >> never had trouble
> > >> again.
> > >>
> > >> My point is, it always pays to start with the
> > >> basics!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, jean-paul
> > mineur
> > >> <lorrains@v...>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Hello everybody
> > >> > Could somebody help me to solve this problem: I
> > >> have an
> > >> intermittent problem on my starter. When the
> > weather
> > >> is hot and
> > >> humid, it most of the time doesn t work and I
> > have
> > >> to jump the
> > >> solenoid switch connector and the positif
> > directly
> > >> on the starter
> > >> with a screwdriver to start the engine.
> > >> > I changed the starter, starter relay (not new),
> > >> checked connectors
> > >> between starter and starter relay, nothing
> > changes.
> > >> At the same time
> > >> when I turn the key to the start position, the
> > >> heater fan comes on at
> > >> high speed. However the fan works correctly when
> > >> engine is running.
> > >> This could be an unrelated problem. I have the
> > >> electrical manual
> > >> classe 12.
> > >> > Any suggestion?
> > >> > Thanks a lot
> > >> > Jean-Paul
> > >> > Montreal
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > >> removed]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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