Re: [Peugeot-L] 505 turbo no thermostat?

From: gary freeman <riven2649_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 07/28/05


  All of the previous suggestions were very good and   basic cooling system problems; but when cars overheat
  at higher speeds, it often indicates diminished   capacity of the cooling system. The faster a car   goes, the more cylinder firings in a certain amount   of time which means there is more heat to disipate;   and if the car's cooling system has lessened in   capacity, it will be more difficult to handle the   extra heat. Therefore, I'm very suspicious of a   clogged radiator; and if you have it cleaned out,   make sure they rod it out as boiling isn't always   successful. Also, check that water pump belt because   if they're loose, they will slip more at high speeds.
  If nothing exposes itself as the problem, there is   a very rare occurrence to look at; and that is   sometimes the water pump impeller slips on its shaft,
  and this usually happens at high speeds. To check   your thermostat, you can usually check the temp of   both radiator hoses; and they should roughly be the   same. A bad thermostat would make it overheat at idle
  too. It would probably be a good idea to change it   anyway at this point as it's cheap and it's been   overheated. You probably wouldn't damage the head   by not using a thermostat, but some cars don't cool   well without a thermostat as it allows too fast a   flow through the radiator not allowing enough time   for proper heat exchange with the air flowing over   the radiator fins. The thermostat does allow for   quick warm-up, but more importantly it maintains   engine temperature in the proper range for expansion   of materials so that moving parts operate with the   proper clearances. Also, with modern injection, the   temp sensor lets the injection system know the   correct temp of the engine so that it can determine   the proper air/fuel ratio; and without a thermostat   installed, the actual temp of the engine may be   different and cause too rich (or lean) a mixture.   That's why you shouldn't run a modern car without   a thermostat.

  Gary

  • Pug NZ <pug-yahoo2@azorah.co.nz> wrote:

> Sounds like you have either a blocked radiator,
> stuffed thermostat,
> loose fan belt or failing water pump.
> At highway speeds, the car should have enough
> cooling unless you are not
> circulating the water well enough.
>
> I have access to a 1.5 inch supply of the town water
> supply. A large
> diameter hose from this to the radiator hose
> certainly flushes the
> radiator core out well. Following this, the cars run
> a lot cooler. If
> you can find someone with a similar high capacity
> hose, try flushing the
> radiator. also check the other items out.
>
> Not sure about the N9TE water pump, but I had
> another 505 shred the pump
> impeller so most of it was missing...
> The thermostat is designed to get the engine up to
> operating temp
> quicker, so that wear and fuel use are minimised.
> Check around, you may
> be able to get a thermostat that has the same
> opening temp, but a larger
> orifice to allow a better flow. Don't be tempted to
> run the car without
> the thermostat long term.
>
> Kevin
>
>
> the505inme wrote:
>
> >During the hot hot days of summer ( 25c+), my N9TE
> will boil over the
> >coolant in the expansion bottle, but only at
> highway speeds.
> > However, this never happens when the ambiant temp
> is below 10c. I
> >can drive all day at 140kph without trouble in the
> fall, winter and
> >spring.
> >
> >Several good mechanics have advised me to try
> running the car without
> >the thermostat, to open the flow of coolant during
> the hottest summer
> >days. But Iv'e heard from others that I am risking
> head damage this
> >way.
> >
> >Can some cooling experts please advise? Is there a
> 'summer'
> >and 'winter' thermostat for the N9TE?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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