Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S

From: Bob Bruce <bobbruce_at_mts.net>
Date: 07/29/05

If you get your hands on a MIchelin Tire Guide you will see that not even all Michelin tires of the same size are the same OD or have the same revolutions per mile. I have a set of 195/60R14s Michelins that were sold to Honda for the early Accuras I'm willing to bet they have the smallest OD of any 195/60R14 on the planet.

So what I am saying is the final proof is in the pudding not in some math that is starting off from some fuzzy point.

  • Original Message ----- From: Karydas To: 'august' ; peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:53 AM Subject: RE: [Peugeot-L] Re: Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S

  Okay then, let's do the math. Let's assume that the original size is   205/60/15. The height of the sidewall is (205X0.60) =123mm or 4.85   inches. If you times that by 2 and add 15 inches (the rim) you get a   total wheel diameter of 24.5 inches. If you want to keep the same total   diameter with 195's the sidewall height must remain 123mm so the aspect   ratio should be 123mm divided by 195mm or 63% so you are looking for a   195/63/15 which does not exist. But interestingly enough, this is right   in between 195/65/15 and 195/60/15. Most tire companies offer 60's as   the higher performance version, so by recommending that Peugeot offers   more tire brand options for the high end 505's and better pick-up   compared to the 65. But then again my Greek brain may not be in tune   with the French mind.

  Thanos

  -----Original Message-----
  From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On   Behalf Of august
  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 6:38 AM
  To: peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Re: Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S

  wait a sec. Why would peugeot recommend a 195/60 (not 195/65) and   205/60 to both work.. especially if the speedo is going to be off   with 195/60's!?! ...or am i misunderstanding.

  /august

  On 7/28/05, Karydas <karydas@hol.gr> wrote:
> Well, no, because it also takes more work to rotate the larger wheel,
> that's why acceleration suffers a bit. Then again, if you are looking
> for a grand scheme, your speedometer reading will be closer to actual
> speed. They normally "cheat" by 2 or 3 mph and this will be partially
> offset by the 2% grater speed for the same rpm's.
> Thanos
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jidoo
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:42 AM
> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Re: Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S
>
> To All
>
> Thanks much for the responses re the above. Being shallow I may stay
> with the machismo and the 205 size.
>
> P.S.
>
> (If the car is going 2% faster [per Karydas] for a given rpm, wouldnt
> that offset the MPG loss due to rolling resistance in some grand
> scheme of things...?)
>
> Bill T
> -- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Karydas" <karydas@h...> wrote:
> > The 195 tire is about quarter inch shorter and 0.4 inches narrower.
> It
> > will be better in the wet and snow, accelerate faster and give
  better
> > mileage. The 205 will corner and brake better and at the same rpm's
> the
> > car will travel about 2% faster than it will with the 195. In
> general,
> > the overall difference is small and the 205 is the aesthetically
  more
> > pleasing choice.
> >
> > Thanos
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com]
  On
> > Behalf Of august
> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:17 AM
> > To: peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S
> >
> > 195 better for snow maybe? narrower? more pounds per square inch.
> >
> > On 7/27/05, Bob Bruce <bobbruce@m...> wrote:
> > > The 205's look much better in the wheel well
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: jidoo
> > > To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 9:22 PM
> > > Subject: [Peugeot-L] Two tire specs for '88 Turbo S
> > >
> > >
> > > The door jamb mentions without any detail, two sizes for the
> turbo;
> > > 195/60 and 205/60 (If Im recalling correctly).
> > >
> > > What would be the advantage or disadvantage of the
  larger/smaller
> > > footprint? I will be purchasing H rateds--either Kumho or
  Fulda.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Bill T
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