Re: [Peugeot-L] 89 V6 engine ignition Woes Help !

From: David A. Hueppchen <ojrallye_at_excel.net>
Date: 08/11/05

Gary,

But our Volvos got PRV d in 76 and didn't get that wiring till the early 80s.

Best Regards
David A.Hueppchen
OJ Rallye Automotive
Plymouth, WI USA
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  • Original Message ----- From: "gary freeman" <riven2649@yahoo.com> To: <pug-yahoo@azorah.co.nz>; <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 89 V6 engine ignition Woes Help !

> Makes me think Volvo shared more than engines with
> Peugeot because in the pre PRV days we had no real
> problems with Peugeot wiring, but Swedish cars have
> wires that the insulation begins to fall off of with
> age.Maybe some kind of special formulation for the
> cold?
>
> --- Pug NZ <pug-yahoo@azorah.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Please note that this is jeffs car that has the
>> problem, so please
>> direct replies to him.
>> With Peugeots, particularly the 505 V6, besides the
>> obvious component
>> faults that need to be checked for, the integrity of
>> the wiring and
>> connections needs to be checked. Just because the
>> ECU is not getting a
>> good signal from a sensor does not mean that either
>> the sensor or ecu is
>> faulty. Don't forget all the wiring and crimped on
>> connections and
>> relays and fuses and connector blocks and On
>> splices....
>> I just lent a friend a V6 afm, because he had been
>> told his one was
>> faulty. The loan one proved it was not the afm, and
>> he was saved
>> megabucks. It turned out to be a loose wire behind
>> the engine...
>> And that is fairly typical of a number of 505
>> electrical problems I have
>> had to fix.
>> Kevin
>>
>> gary freeman wrote:
>>
>> > I'm not familiar with your particular car, but
>> most
>> > electronically injected cars are similar in some
>> > respects. Usually if your injectors are not
>> working;
>> > and the ECU has power and ground and is good,then
>> > it's probably the TDC sensor or maybe the speed
>> > sensor. Those are the main requirements for the
>> ECU
>> > to operate.
>> >
>> >--- Pug NZ <pug-yahoo2@azorah.co.nz> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>An intermittent spark with power to the coil
>> points
>> >>towards an
>> >>electrical fault (surprise surprise on the V6!).
>> >>
>> >>To get a spark on the V6, a number of systems need
>> >>to interact.
>> >>
>> >>The power for these systems comes through the four
>> >>relays above the fuse
>> >>box. first step is to check that these are all
>> >>working properly and
>> >>supplying power to the appropriate circuits. When
>> >>the engine is cranked,
>> >>the ECU first waits for feedback from certain
>> >>sensors before producing
>> >>a spark, supplying fuel. If you are checking for a
>> >>spark, use one of the
>> >>spark plug leads, not #1 cyl though. #1 has a
>> sensor
>> >>on it that the ecu
>> >>needs. Check the distributor cap and rotor
>> >>condition. The resistance
>> >>across the rotor should be around 1000 ohms from
>> >>memory (I can dig this
>> >>out if need be), one of mine caused problems when
>> >>the resistance rose to
>> >>around 3000 ohms.
>> >>
>> >>No point in checking fuel pressure if you are not
>> >>getting the injectors
>> >>clicking when you are cranking.
>> >>
>> >>Kevin
>> >>
>> >>marc rogers wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Check for fuel pressure next
>> >>>
>> >>>--- Pug NZ <pug-yahoo2@azorah.co.nz> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Can you hear the injectors clicking when you are
>> >>>>turning it over?
>> >>>>Have a look at the bunch of four relays above
>> the
>> >>>>fuse box in the engine
>> >>>>bay. Check the relays, and for bad connections
>> >>>>between the relays and
>> >>>>connectors, and also between the connectors and
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>the
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>wires too.
>> >>>>Kevin
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jeff wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>A new problem has developed with my ignition,
>> on
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>my
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>89 505 with the V6.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Engine cranks fine, and there is current to the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>coil, even during
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>cranking. Every once in a few tries, with the
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>coil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>wire pulled, the
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>coil will product spark. Anything I should be
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>checking for? Thanks in
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>advance, to all that reply, jeff
>> >>>>>
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