[Peugeot-L] Re: 1976 Gas 504 driveability - Carb jet question
I am starting to think it's electrical as well. plugs & wires are new but the coil is
possibly original. Will try swapping it out with another this weekend.
thanks for the advice, will keep the group posted.
J
- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, Dan Midtdal <midvally@s...> wrote:
> My good friend John who is Australian (drives nothing but 504's) once told
> me that 95% of all fuel problems in a car are in fact electrical in nature.
> You could be barking up the wrong tree.
> You could be losing spark energy via poor wires or the sparkplug shrouds
> could be crazed resulting in a shorting out of the spark. Possibly a weak
> coil.
> I have seen similar problems on Toyotas with similar sparkplug setup as the
> 504. Replacing all the plugs and shrouds with new solved the problem.
> If you havenot already done so you can convert to the newer style sparkplug
> extenders which are less prone to arcing.
> Dan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tcb323" <tcb323@s...>
> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:15 PM
> Subject: [Peugeot-L] Re: 1976 Gas 504 driveability - Carb jet question
>
>
> > Hi Kenneth,
> >
> > Filter is clear and new, brass screens are clear.
> > Is there a filter anywhere else in the system? like in the tank?
> >
> > Any idea how to test flow of the fuel pump? maybe it's the wrong one?
> > has a pinhole?
> >
> > Can anyone help me find the specs on the carb jets? we're stumped.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, kenneth parker <elkeni@m...> wrote:
> >> Fuel filter may be gummed up and, also, that little screen (I
> > think
> >> there is a little cylindrical screen) where the gas actually enters
> > the
> >> top of the carbs.
> >> Ken
> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:27 PM, tcb323 wrote:
> >>
> >> > The sluggishness is pretty even, doesn't open up over 3500rpm
> > really.
> >> > I will try cleaning
> >> > the carb really thoroughly, but it's pretty clean. The whole car
> > is
> >> > amazingly clean and
> >> > intact, had a really obsessive owner. But this problem has me
> > stumped
> >> > so far. Maybe it's
> >> > as simple as the carb shop installed the wrong jets or something.
> >> >
> >> > thanks for the advice though!
> >> >
> >> > PS anyone got a set of good 14" rims with holes ? I have the
> > early
> >> > kind that won't balance,
> >> > and I don't want to buy new tires to upgrade to 15" 505 rims.
> >> >
> >> > Josef
> >> >
> >> > --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, gary freeman <riven2649@y...>
> > wrote:
> >> >> <How does it run past 3,000-3,500 rpm? If it's only
> >> >> bad under those rpm's, then your progression circuit
> >> >> may be clogged. Those are holes from the idle circuit
> >> >> in front of the idle holes so that as the throttle
> >> >> opens, these are uncovered and provide fuel until the
> >> >> main circuit comes into full play. If it stumbles off
> >> >> idle and hesitates alot, but then runs fine after
> >> >> 3,000-3,500rpm, that is probably your problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> --- tcb323 <tcb323@s...> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Ken,
> >> >>> thanks for the response - have checked both accel.
> >> >>> pumps and they are both squirting -
> >> >>> should it be a stream or a mist? Mine have a stream.
> >> >>> Have also checked float level and
> >> >>> needle valves, and brass screens in carb inlets. all
> >> >>> seem to be working ok.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Maybe there's an accel pump adjustment procedure I
> >> >>> havent followed?
> >> >>> The PO put a new fuel pump in, is there any chance
> >> >>> it's the wrong one and won't flow
> >> >>> enough under high load?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> thanks for everyone's help!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> joe
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, kenneth parker
> >> >>> <elkeni@m...> wrote:
> >> >>>> Is the accelerator pump giving you a good spray
> >> >>> of fuel on
> >> >>>> acceleration? I assume you know how to check it,
> >> >>> but if not remove the
> >> >>>> air filter rubber from the carbs and then look
> >> >>> inside the carb throat
> >> >>>> while you work the throttle with your hand. If it
> >> >>> is working well you
> >> >>>> should see a stream of gas squirting into the carb
> >> >>> throat. This should
> >> >>>> be the case with both carbs though, in actual
> >> >>> driving, the secondary
> >> >>>> kicks in later than the primary. You can check
> >> >>> the pumps with the car
> >> >>>> off.
> >> >>>> Ken
> >> >>>> On Aug 14, 2005, at 7:46 PM, tcb323 wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Hello,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks to all who have given advice on my poor
> >> >>> acceleration and hill
> >> >>>>> climbing ability on my 76 gas auto california
> >> >>> emission 504.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> We think it's a carburation problem. When you
> >> >>> give it 1/2 choke on
> >> >>>>> acceleration, it'll pick up, but without that
> >> >>> choke goose, it's
> >> >>>>> sluggish and feels 'held back'
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> this makes us think it's starving for gas. PO
> >> >>> states that the car
> >> >>>>> hasn't run right since the carbs were rebuilt.
> >> >>> We opened up the main
> >> >>>>> jets and found 100 on the secondary and 120 on
> >> >>> the primary.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Haynes book seems to call for 112 +- 2.5. I am
> >> >>> not sure it takes the
> >> >>>>> CA emissions into account. All the smog garbage
> >> >>> is present and seems to
> >> >>>>> function.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Can anyone look up what the right jets for these
> >> >>> Solexes are?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> dwell angle is set at 56deg. Manual calls for
> >> >>> 63deg. Which is right?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Thanks again!!
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> J
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
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