Re: [Peugeot-L] '91 405 mi16 breakdown/followup

From: Randy Porter <droppedmi16_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 09/27/06


Now see, I'm different, my thoughts are - if you own & regularly drive or depend on a Peugeot for your day to day transportation you have no choice but to need AAA, having AAA has saved me literally hundreds of dollars, of course I drove my 89 Mi16 probably much more each month than most of you (4K / month) & in the OnCalifornia summer heat at that, seriously...I won't even fire up the damn thing unless my AAA is paid up, & it's not that much, I have the premier thingy which is the best one you can get I think & it's only like $100 or so a year, not bad considering, my mechanic is also 80 miles away, so the 4 free 100 mile tows a year is well worth it, I guess I can agree with Brian if you occasionally drove it, but you also get discounts everywhere with it too.

  • Brian White <brian@bjwhite.net> wrote:

> I never understood paying for AAA. Why not just
> call a tow truck
> direct? One tow truck over 6 years...wouldn't AAA
> membership be more
> expensive?
>
> I've only had to use a tow truck twice in my life.
> First time when
> the center diff pin broke and flew out the side of
> the transmission
> in my 1992 Volkswagen Corrado VR6. Secondly when my
> 405 Mi16 broke
> the timing belt....
>
> At 07:56 2006-09-27, Paul Hughes wrote:
> >Rob,
> >
> >Good to hear it!
> >
> >My '89 is getting its second speedo cable in six
> years
> >(and a new cruise control sender, since the two
> piece
> >cable design seems to be defunct), as well as a new
> >oil temperature sender, as my old one seems to be
> >leaking oil due to a bad seal (they are also
> checking
> >the wiring since I'd like the sender to actually
> power
> >the gauge in the cluster, not just act as an extra
> >drain plug like the previous one did!). This is on
> >top of new brake lines and front calipers and a
> brake
> >proportioning valve the week before...the brakes
> now
> >feel absolutely perfect.
> >
> >Every ounce of preventative maintenance is worth a
> >pound of cure in my book. Even with AAA as the
> back
> >up just in case!! Thankfully, I've only used them
> >once in 6 1/2 years with my Pug...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- "Robert S. Bast" <bastrood@gmavt.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I thank all my Peug-Advisors for the thoughtful
> > > advice. We're headed
> > > down the replace for reliability road. BTW, in
> > > consulting on this
> > > issue up here, most of these hoses are well
> made, of
> > > good materials
> > > and would be good "backup" material. I studied
> an
> > > engine being
> > > cleared for removal with about 250 K on it, and
> all
> > > its orginal hoses.
> > > There are a few other weak spots, however, on
> the
> > > mi16 engine cooling
> > > system, notably a plastic junction box bolted on
> the
> > > back of the
> > > block into which a few hoses merge. The plastic
> of
> > > the '90s was a
> > > maturing, but not a mature technology, whereas
> > > rubber was much
> > > farther along. I think we can expect these kinds
> of
> > > parts to fail
> > > under stress faster than the rubber in the
> hoses.
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > Rob Bast
> > > Hinesburg, Vermont USA
> > > '92mi16
> > > '91mi16
> > > 89505v6
> > > 57citroen2cv
> > >
> > > On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:56 AM, N9TE wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gotta agree with Ben & Paul. These are old
> cars
> > > and even though
> > > > you might
> > > > be "wasting" some of the useful life in a
> couple
> > > of components,
> > > > you'll more
> > > > than make up for it in terms of reliability
> and
> > > saved towing
> > > > costs. And you
> > > > really can't put a price tag on reliability -
> as
> > > I'm sure you're
> > > > become
> > > > aware of. Although everything turned out just
> > > fine, you wouldn't
> > > > want to
> > > > play the what-if game if things became more
> > > difficult for a family
> > > > member
> > > > stranded in a car charged to your care. You
> can
> > > also save some of the
> > > > better hoses or used components as "backups".
> > > >
> > > > Another good reason to do
> scheduled/preventative
> > > maintenance is
> > > > that you can
> > > > create a list of parts you need to
> scrounge/hunt
> > > for and fill the
> > > > list over
> > > > time and undertake repairs at your convenience
> > > rather than the
> > > > convenience
> > > > of the inop car.
> > > >
> > > > Change those hoses! Gotta keep those lions
> > > roaring.
> > > >
> > > > K o l l
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Robert S. Bast" <bastrood@gmavt.net>
> > > > To: "peugeotclub Group"
> > > <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:27 PM
> > > > Subject: [Peugeot-L] '91 405 mi16
> > > breakdown/question
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> daughter called from the scene of the
> breakdown,
> > > and as we sorted it
> > > >> out over the phone, the issue was less dire
> than
> > > first reported as "
> > > >> Dad, the car is stopped and smoking!"
> Actually,
> > > it was steaming,
> > > >> and a nice pool of antifreeze developed,
> about 2
> > > ft x 3ft as
> > > >> described to me, passenger side, under the
> > > engine. Alert daughter
> > > >> had stopped the car on the first sign (smell)
> of
> > > trouble and turned
> > > >> it off. No overheating took place. I had her
> call
> > > the tow service to
> > > >> take it to a shop.
> > > >> My guess, from a distance, is a break in the
> > > lower radiator hose,
> > > >> but we'll find out when the shop looks it
> over.
> > > >>
> > > >> My question for the group would be this:
> would
> > > you replace all the
> > > >> hoses you could at this point, not just the
> > > failed one? a my guess is
> > > >> that they are mostly the originals. Should I
> > > expect that the rubber
> > > >> in this car which is original is not going to
> > > hold up much longer? ny
> > > >> other things we should look for? this was a
> > > dramatic instance, not
> > > >> something slow to develop. I had the car for
> the
> > > past week after
> > > >> some body work repairs. It is running well
> and
> > > looks great ! I 'd
> > > >> post pictures of the cars, but my connection
> to
> > > the group, which goes
> > > >> way back, somehow does not allow me to post
> such
> > > a thing, or view
> > > >> things others have posted. The relationship
> is
> > > verbal, but heartfelt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Recommended format for your email subject
> lines:
>
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