Re: [Peugeot-L] '91 405 mi16 breakdown/followup

From: Brian White <brian_at_bjwhite.net>
Date: 09/27/06

I guess so. I put 38,000 miles on it the first year I had my Corrado. Even including a NONSTOP drive from Louisville, KY to San Francisco and BACK TO LOUISVILLE in 4.5 days. 5200 miles or so in that 4.5 day period.

My 405...I drove quite a bit. It had 203k on it by the time I got rid of it. Definately not 4k a month, but still....it was my daily driver. Drove it to LA from Seattle....into Montana...up into Canada....all kinds of places.

Guess I was flirting with towing disaster or something. <grin>

At 09:32 2006-09-27, Randy Porter wrote:
>Now see, I'm different, my thoughts are - if you own &
>regularly drive or depend on a Peugeot for your day to
>day transportation you have no choice but to need AAA,
>having AAA has saved me literally hundreds of dollars,
>of course I drove my 89 Mi16 probably much more each
>month than most of you (4K / month) & in the
>California summer heat at that, seriously...I won't
>even fire up the damn thing unless my AAA is paid up,
>& it's not that much, I have the premier thingy which
>is the best one you can get I think & it's only like
>$100 or so a year, not bad considering, my mechanic is
>also 80 miles away, so the 4 free 100 mile tows a year
>is well worth it, I guess I can agree with Brian if
>you occasionally drove it, but you also get discounts
>everywhere with it too.
>
>--- Brian White <brian@bjwhite.net> wrote:
>
> > I never understood paying for AAA. Why not just
> > call a tow truck
> > direct? One tow truck over 6 years...wouldn't AAA
> > membership be more
> > expensive?
> >
> > I've only had to use a tow truck twice in my life.
> > First time when
> > the center diff pin broke and flew out the side of
> > the transmission
> > in my 1992 Volkswagen Corrado VR6. Secondly when my
> > 405 Mi16 broke
> > the timing belt....
> >
> > At 07:56 2006-09-27, Paul Hughes wrote:
> > >Rob,
> > >
> > >Good to hear it!
> > >
> > >My '89 is getting its second speedo cable in six
> > years
> > >(and a new cruise control sender, since the two
> > piece
> > >cable design seems to be defunct), as well as a new
> > >oil temperature sender, as my old one seems to be
> > >leaking oil due to a bad seal (they are also
> > checking
> > >the wiring since I'd like the sender to actually
> > power
> > >the gauge in the cluster, not just act as an extra
> > >drain plug like the previous one did!). This is on
> > >top of new brake lines and front calipers and a
> > brake
> > >proportioning valve the week before...the brakes
> > now
> > >feel absolutely perfect.
> > >
> > >Every ounce of preventative maintenance is worth a
> > >pound of cure in my book. Even with AAA as the
> > back
> > >up just in case!! Thankfully, I've only used them
> > >once in 6 1/2 years with my Pug...
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--- "Robert S. Bast" <bastrood@gmavt.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I thank all my Peug-Advisors for the thoughtful
> > > > advice. We're headed
> > > > down the replace for reliability road. BTW, in
> > > > consulting on this
> > > > issue up here, most of these hoses are well
> > made, of
> > > > good materials
> > > > and would be good "backup" material. I studied
> > an
> > > > engine being
> > > > cleared for removal with about 250 K on it, and
> > all
> > > > its orginal hoses.
> > > > There are a few other weak spots, however, on
> > the
> > > > mi16 engine cooling
> > > > system, notably a plastic junction box bolted on
> > the
> > > > back of the
> > > > block into which a few hoses merge. The plastic
> > of
> > > > the '90s was a
> > > > maturing, but not a mature technology, whereas
> > > > rubber was much
> > > > farther along. I think we can expect these kinds
> > of
> > > > parts to fail
> > > > under stress faster than the rubber in the
> > hoses.
> > > > Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > > Rob Bast
> > > > Hinesburg, Vermont USA
> > > > '92mi16
> > > > '91mi16
> > > > 89505v6
> > > > 57citroen2cv
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 22, 2006, at 12:56 AM, N9TE wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gotta agree with Ben & Paul. These are old
> > cars
> > > > and even though
> > > > > you might
> > > > > be "wasting" some of the useful life in a
> > couple
> > > > of components,
> > > > > you'll more
> > > > > than make up for it in terms of reliability
> > and
> > > > saved towing
> > > > > costs. And you
> > > > > really can't put a price tag on reliability -
> > as
> > > > I'm sure you're
> > > > > become
> > > > > aware of. Although everything turned out just
> > > > fine, you wouldn't
> > > > > want to
> > > > > play the what-if game if things became more
> > > > difficult for a family
> > > > > member
> > > > > stranded in a car charged to your care. You
> > can
> > > > also save some of the
> > > > > better hoses or used components as "backups".
> > > > >
> > > > > Another good reason to do
> > scheduled/preventative
> > > > maintenance is
> > > > > that you can
> > > > > create a list of parts you need to
> > scrounge/hunt
> > > > for and fill the
> > > > > list over
> > > > > time and undertake repairs at your convenience
> > > > rather than the
> > > > > convenience
> > > > > of the inop car.
> > > > >
> > > > > Change those hoses! Gotta keep those lions
> > > > roaring.
> > > > >
> > > > > K o l l
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Robert S. Bast" <bastrood@gmavt.net>
> > > > > To: "peugeotclub Group"
> > > > <peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:27 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Peugeot-L] '91 405 mi16
> > > > breakdown/question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> daughter called from the scene of the
> > breakdown,
> > > > and as we sorted it
> > > > >> out over the phone, the issue was less dire
> > than
> > > > first reported as "
> > > > >> Dad, the car is stopped and smoking!"
> > Actually,
> > > > it was steaming,
> > > > >> and a nice pool of antifreeze developed,
> > about 2
> > > > ft x 3ft as
> > > > >> described to me, passenger side, under the
> > > > engine. Alert daughter
> > > > >> had stopped the car on the first sign (smell)
> > of
> > > > trouble and turned
> > > > >> it off. No overheating took place. I had her
> > call
> > > > the tow service to
> > > > >> take it to a shop.
> > > > >> My guess, from a distance, is a break in the
> > > > lower radiator hose,
> > > > >> but we'll find out when the shop looks it
> > over.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My question for the group would be this:
> > would
> > > > you replace all the
> > > > >> hoses you could at this point, not just the
> > > > failed one? a my guess is
> > > > >> that they are mostly the originals. Should I
> > > > expect that the rubber
> > > > >> in this car which is original is not going to
> > > > hold up much longer? ny
> > > > >> other things we should look for? this was a
> > > > dramatic instance, not
> > > > >> something slow to develop. I had the car for
> > the
> > > > past week after
> > > > >> some body work repairs. It is running well
> > and
> > > > looks great ! I 'd
> > > > >> post pictures of the cars, but my connection
> > to
> > > > the group, which goes
> > > > >> way back, somehow does not allow me to post
> > such
> > > > a thing, or view
> > > > >> things others have posted. The relationship
> > is
> > > > verbal, but heartfelt.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Recommended format for your email subject
> > lines:
> >
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