I get a little over 400 mi from a tank in my Mi16
The 406 TDi got 1700 KM from a tank in normal road a test in NZ
When gas went nuts in the 70s you couldn't give away an RV
When they get cheap this time I may buy and hook a horse to it
- Original Message -----
From: "N9TE" <Fujitsu@turbo505.com>
To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Peugeot-L] Peugeot's in Taiwan/I saw them!
> I'd say there's nothing wrong. Price increases are the best way to
> ration a scarce resource.
>
> At > 3 a gal, the big SUV is doomed. People have a hard time justifying
> the price of filling up at that level. I predict there will be a
> massive glut of them in the next few years as many people bail into more
> efficient vehicles. Just as cars took a huge downsize in he 70s from
> the apex of car size (1973).
>
> I agree that the excellent Tdi being made it Europe would be great here.
> I'd buy one in a second. Getting 50 miles per gallon would be a thrill.
>
> Some general misconceptions: SUVs don't get that bad of mileage. Most
> can come close to my 505 turbo's mileage of 19/28. Oil companies aren't
> conspiring. EcoRegulations have seen to it that no new refinery has
> been built in the US in 30 years. That's the current bottleneck in the
> system. Boutique blends also conspire to create shortages in most
> regional US markets.
>
> My conclusions? I think the future is TDI. I'm not sold on hybrids
> even though the Prius is cool. I hear the Smart has been given the
> green light in the US. That's a bit small for my tastes, but I welcome
> them. I hope good old gasoline never leaves as a turbo gas car is the
> only way to fly if you can afford it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Dan Midtdal
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:22 AM
> To: peugeot-l@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] Peugeot's in Taiwan/I saw them!
>
>
>> It is too bad we are so limited in the US. Each time, I saw one that
>> wasn't
>> available, I expressed some sadness that these cars are just not
>> obtainable
>> in the US.
> The whole resistence to imported automobiles in the USA and Canada (to a
>
> lesser extent) is a problem which will continue to drag down the
> economies
> of both countries. Like education which is internationally shared, the
> ideas of automakers throughout the world could work well for North
> America
> which continues to churn out large SUV's that the drivers do not need
> for
> their suburban communities or downtown lofts. Advertisers are on board
> to
> convince us big is better and let's keep working to consume every ounce
> of
> oil so there is nothing left for the future. There is also huge
> resistence
> to purchasing small cars due to the proliferation of big vehicle on the
> road
> and the fear that we will be crushed by them if we drive something
> small.
> Canada is less influenced by big vehicles due to the fact that gasoline
> prices are higher in Canada (ie taxes) than the US and the number of
> smaller
> European and Japanese vehicles on the road is far greater than in the
> USA. It is continued protectionism which keeps the big vehicles coming
> and the
> interests of Oil Companies to sell more gas to customers with less
> fuel
> efficient vehicles. No doubt the fear is that consumers could become
> accustomed to better fuel efficiency and pay a premium up front for an
> imported fuel efficient car. That would eat into the profits of the oil
>
> companies for sure. The oil companies thrive on oil shortages which
> drives
> the cost of gasoline up. They manipulate the market sending us into
> long
> lineups for an artificially created fuel shortage with the click of a
> mouse
> and we fall for it. The Smart Car is available in Canada but not the
> USA,
> why? Peugeot works hard to keep their vehicles fuel efficient and that
> was
> what attracted me to Peugeot in the first place. I was soon seduced by
> the
> ride and handling. Will the cost of gas finally be the catalyst to
> bring
> Peugeot back to NA?
> No doubt this whole scenario has been studied by the analysts, does
> anyone
> have research which shows some understanding of why this situation
> exists
> almost uniquely in the USA? What is driving Americans to pick the big
> over
> the small? How can this be turned around? Without the USA importing
> smaller European and Asian cars, we in Canada will not see them here due
> to
> the North American Auto pact which makes it expensive to certify the
> smaller
> less profitable cars and you need the higher volumes of two countries to
>
> make it economical . I would love to move up to a newer Peugeot to
> replace
> my MI16 but cannot because WE ARE NOT A FREE COUNTRY! and that sucks.
> 15
> years is too long to wait before you can import a used Peugeot into
> Canada
> and the cost of shipping just one at a time just adds to the insult.
> Peugeot is good enough for Mexico and Cuba but not Canada and USA. Why
> are
> we as citizens of these two great countries allowing this to happen! So
> the
> oil company executive can live better than us?
> End of Rant
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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