And I´m fairly sure that the 604 was equipped with this engine ! We
still have the 604 GTI 2.9 in the shed and also Bob Ruggeri in NY has
one of these GTI´s with the 2.9 ZNJ-engine.
The evolution at the 604 is:
604 V6 SL - 2.7 with carburator (ZM 128 )
604 TI - 2.7 K-jetronic (ZMJ)
604 STI - 2.7 K-jetronic Phase II ( new dash from 1980 upwards ) (ZMJ)
604 GTI - 2.9 K-jetronic Phase II ( new dash from 1982/83 upwards )
(ZNJ)
The main optical difference - the carby-type has valve-covers in
black-painted metal while the later K-Jetronic-typs have
alloy-valve-covers. So all together the 604/504 V6 has 4 different
valvecover-gaskets, right and left as well as for alloy- or
metal-covers.
You´re right with the huge difference between the 2.7 carby and the
K-jetronic. Had both cars over here running and even the noise while
running was a difference like fire and water.
Besides that: the 604 GTI 2,9 had exactly 155 hp instead 136 hp at the
2.7. From my feeling the 604 2.9 was definetely FASTER and STRONGER than
the 505 V6 with 143 hp. Also the harmonic between tranny and engine felt
better at the 3Hp22 from the 604 than with the 4HP22 at the 505. Also
consumption - the 604 never took more than 10 Litres/100 km while 13
OnLitres are more a normal worth for the 505...
Cheers
Jürgen
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Pug NZ [mailto:pug-yahoo@azorah.co.nz]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2005 21:17
An: Bagheera
Cc: 'Bob Bruce'; peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Peugeot-L] Re: V6 in Peugeots
I am fairly sure that the 604 did not come out with the 2.9 engine with
K-jet.
It did come out with the 2664 cc engine with K-jet rather than the
single/twin carb setup though.
The k-jet 604 was from around 1981 (possibly earlier, but I do have an
81 for parts) through to at least 1985.
There is a huge difference in driveability between the carb 604 and the
k-jet 604 (much better) but the 505 has a number of superior features
that come with electronic injection
Bagheera wrote:
>Hi Bob, hi Group,
>
>only wanted to add - also the 604 had the 2.9 ZNJ-engine with
K-jetronic
>( only the GTI upon 1983 ) but also this engine is not really the same
>with the 505 V6 ZN3J. It neither has the knock-sensors nor parts like
>the cylindre-heads, pistons etc. are equal.
>
>Have to agree fully with you Bob, no real compare between the 604 V6
and
>the 505 V6: We drove the 604 GTI 2,9 with 3HP22 for about 1 1/2 year
and
>now drive the 505 V6 2,8 4HP22 since about 2 years. With the 604 we
>normally came home with a trailer every 2nd month while the 505 V6 so
>far only made some trouble with the LED for the knock-sensor. The main
>problem at the 604 always was the central-lock over vacuum, also the
>main reason why at least the engine blowed :-/
>
>Cheers
>
>Jurgen
>
>-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>Von: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] Im
>Auftrag von Bob Bruce
>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Oktober 2005 19:03
>An: CarlL46674@aol.com; Peugeot List
>Betreff: [Peugeot-L] Re: V6 in Peugeots
>
>The 604 and 505 V6 engines are both PRVs but the 505 is 2.8 liter while
>the 604 is smaller, 2.6 or 2.7 liter.
>The 604 has a dysfunctional Solex carb setup while the 505 V6 has
>flawless Bosch EFI
>with fully incorporated electronic computer controlled ignition.
>There is probably nothing from one that will interchange to the other.
>The 604 V6 was an awful lemon while the 505 V6 was great and arguably
>the
>best of the 505s.
>
>Bob
>
>PS I am sure there are some out there that think the 604 V6 was the
>greatest of all. They no doubt have their reasons.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: CarlL46674@aol.com
> To: bobbruce@mts.net
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 9:12 PM
> Subject: V6 in Peugeots
>
>
> Hey Bob,
>
> Is the V6 used in the 505 the same as the PRV V6 used in the 604?
>
> Carl
>
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