[Peugeot-L] Re: clinging stage

From: Senen Racki <Senen_at_racki.ca>
Date: 11/22/07

I can relate to that. I suppose there is still plenty of time left before supplies dry up to the point of having discussions of repro parts and such, because the one thing that we do have going for us is that Peugeot sold these cars all over the world. We just have to beware of the regional differences in the designs!

Senen.

Lance wrote:

> I think we cling because the market has a natural antipathy towards all 
> things French
> particularly the cars, there is also some fear of the market for the 
> parts and services not
> being sufficient to sustain a business. The French allofness is part of 
> OUR personality, and we would rather remain the outcasts of the 
> automotive world. It is the owners who start such endeavours, and we are an
> aloof lot who would sometimes rather not mingle with the huddled masses 
> who drive '55-'57 Chevys, '49-'51 Fords, etc,and many might just prefer 
> to plod along like this rather than be more mainstream in our ways of 
> acquiring supplies.
> 
> At least 505 owners can get a synthetic nanofiber AMSOIL oil filter, 
> like I have on my 505s. 98.7% efficiency at 15 microns.
> 
> 
> Lance
> 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:58:04 -0600, Senen Racki <Senen@racki.ca> wrote:
> 

>> I too watched this auction closely. We have a nice 504D of the same
>> year and I share the feeling that these cars deserve a higher valuation.
>> If you set aside the fact that is a Peugeot and instead look at what
>> you get - a 2.3L diesel 4-door sedan that rides like nothing on the
>> market today, then you begin to respect it more. For some reason, it's
>> the name "Peugeot" that keeps the prices down. Sure, there's no ABS and
>> no airbags, but technology enhancements aside, this car is a very safe
>> vehicle to be driving even today. At a touch under $6k + the cost of AC
>> repair, I think the selling price was fair. With proper care, this car
>> could probably outlive an entry level family sedan costing 4x as much.
>>
>> What's surprising to me is that unlike many other orphaned makes in
>> North America, Peugeot fans haven't moved past the "clinging" stage. By
>> that I mean that we are still sharing info with each other and trying to
>> keep these car alive with existing resources, while with other orphaned
>> makes businesses have sprung up to provide support by way of
>> remanufactured parts, cross referenced parts, performance add-ons, etc.
>> As an example, I've owned a '71 Opel GT since 1978. The period
>> through the 80's and early 90's was extremely difficult. GM parts
>> supply dried up, or was simply dumped. Cars were disappearing rapidly
>> as people just drove them into the ground and generally didn't respect
>> them or care for them to the extent they perhaps should have. Then the
>> Internet came along and brought the dedicated enthusiasts together,
>> businesses started up, rare parts were manufactured in batch production
>> runs, performance improvements were not only discussed, tested, and
>> proven, but the 3rd party businesses actually began to sell them as
>> kits. The result is a thriving community in which this particular mark
>> is now easier to own than it was 20 years ago. (check out
>> http://www.opelgt.com if you're interested). FIAT, Alfa, Merkur - they
>> have similar support channels.
>>
>> Maybe it's the difference between sports cars and average family sedan?
>> Owner's reluctance to spend money on a car whose market value is so low?
>> I don't know. It's a very strange dynamic in the Peugeot community -
>> at least here in NA. What IS good about the current state of affairs is
>> that those who know the value (as a vehicle, not monetary investment)
>> can usually end up with a sweet deal if they are patient and look hard
>> enough.
>>
>> Senen.
>>
>>
>> Ruggeri, Robert wrote:
>>> I dunno; AC not working.
>>> I have a 75 sedan in nice shape so I'm glad to see the price take
>>> off.......
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>>> [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Harris
>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:38 PM
>>> To: Lance; Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 504 on eBay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And well worth every single penny! Just wish I could afford
>>> it....
>>>
>>> Lance <lanceto@netineti.clearwire.net
>>> <mailto:lanceto%40netineti.clearwire.net> > wrote: Look at the price!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3
>>> DWatching&viewitem=&item=110193306340&_trksid=p3907.m32
>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%
>>> 3DWatching&viewitem=&item=110193306340&_trksid=p3907.m32>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lance
> 
> 
> 
Received on Thu Nov 22 03:05:35 2007