Re: [Peugeot-L] peugeot prices/parts

Rob, and others,

I have always preferred the "local guy" even in the face of big box price advantage- there are things in life that matter more than money.

When I drove a 1968 Mercedes 250/8, (in the mid 1990s) I always got my bits from Randy Steele of EPS parts, in Long Beach, I think. He knew my car like a facotry engineer. His business was a labor of love.

Once, he even sent me a FACTORY Mercedes-Benz automatic transmission repair manual, which helped me realize that a proper overhaul was beyond my capability. He asked for no deposit, just a word of trust. Never met him, only contacted him via telephone, and later, e-mail. No big box entity would or will ever do that, and yes, I did return the manual.

Lance

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:58:42 -0600, Rob Courter <robcourter@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Lance,
>
> I thank you for your posting and acknowledgements. It
> was a very nice Thanksgiving day Thank you.
>
> Heres' another way to looking at the support of the
> 'local guy'... who ever it is. If their services
> aren't supported and patronized... they go away. And
> there goes the advice that helps you fix the car with
> a bandaid, when that's all you need. Brian and I,
> amoung a few others, do what we can to serve the
> Peugeot population as best we can. We are fellow
> enthusiasts who have taken the risk, made the
> investment and still believe.
>
> Again, thanks for your words.
>
> Rob @ Javel / Garage Courtier - Dallas
>
>
> PS. You might be tickled to know that I at one time
> serviced Bernie Kaye's 604 V6 gas... until he moved
> away from Dallas.
>
> --- Lance <lanceto@netineti.clearwire.net> wrote:
>
>> There is quite a market for older vehicle parts in
>> the UK, as well as for
>> restored cars, e.g., Mark 2 Jaguars, MGBs, Morgans,
>> Morris Minors, Triumph
>> Heralds, and others. LOTS of parts are available
>> for the most popular
>> American cars in the US . If Peugeots had the flash,
>> pop, or what have you
>> that the '49-51 Fords, '55-57 Chevys, etc have, we
>> would be buying from a
>> catalogue, not from a list like this, (nothing wrong
>> with that), but it's
>> kind of "mom and pop" and rather inefficient, in
>> that it doesn't encourage
>> entreprenurial growth and investment. I guess this
>> means herding and
>> organizing Peugeot owners is like herding cats.
>>
>> I think Rob Courter in Dallas, and Brian Holm in
>> Vermont have served us
>> well and I am amazed by the quick, accurate informed
>> responses I have
>> gotten on my issues with my two Peugeots. I'm
>> content with things as they
>> are, but there opportunities out there for these
>> cars.
>>
>> For thise in the US, Happy Thanksgiving!
>>
>> Lance
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> and with the constantOn Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:27:22
>> -0600, Bernard Kaye
>> <eviebob@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Peugeot AutomobilesWe have ourselves to blame:
>> >
>> > Peugeot owners were notorious for not keeping
>> their cars in good repair:
>> >
>> > e.g., if there were four things needing repair out
>> of warranty, dealers
>> > told me the owner would agree to two or three or
>> one and take his
>> > chances with those he did not want to pay for.
>> >
>> > I heard this in several geographic areas. Whether
>> it was because
>> > repairs were "Mercedes" in cost and Peugeot owners
>> were not in that
>> > economic class and/.or other reasons, you bought a
>> used Peugeot at risk
>> > of buying a car not properly maintained, greater
>> risk than we care to
>> > admit.
>> >
>> > If you know long-term Peugeot repair people, talk
>> to them; it is not
>> > difficult to pull it out if you loosen their
>> tongues.
>> >
>> > Bernie
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> > To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:32 AM
>> > Subject: [Peugeot-L] Digest Number 3332
>> >
>> >
>> > Peugeot Automobiles
>> > Messages In This Digest (8 Messages)
>> > 1a. Re: 504 on eBay From: Senen Racki
>> > 1b. Re: 504 on eBay From: Ruggeri, Robert
>> > 1c. clinging stage From: Lance
>> > 2. 505 Door light questions From: alan 505
>> > 3a. Re: 407 coupe spotted From:
>> peugeotvoittaja
>> > 3b. Re: 407 coupe spotted From: p404c
>> > 4a. Re: fuel mileage From: A
>> > 5a. Re: blow by From: Steven Harris
>> > View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages
>> > 1a. Re: 504 on eBay
>> > Posted by: "Senen Racki" Senen@racki.ca
>> senen71
>> > Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:58 am (PST)
>> > I too watched this auction closely. We have a
>> nice 504D of the same
>> > year and I share the feeling that these cars
>> deserve a higher
>> > valuation.
>> > If you set aside the fact that is a Peugeot
>> and instead look at what
>> > you get - a 2.3L diesel 4-door sedan that
>> rides like nothing on the
>> > market today, then you begin to respect it
>> more. For some reason,
>> > it's
>> > the name "Peugeot" that keeps the prices down.
>> Sure, there's no ABS
>> > and
>> > no airbags, but technology enhancements aside,
>> this car is a very
>> > safe
>> > vehicle to be driving even today. At a touch
>> under $6k + the cost of
>> > AC
>> > repair, I think the selling price was fair.
>> With proper care, this
>> > car
>> > could probably outlive an entry level family
>> sedan costing 4x as
>> > much.
>> >
>> > What's surprising to me is that unlike many
>> other orphaned makes in
>> > North America, Peugeot fans haven't moved past
>> the "clinging" stage.
>> > By
>> > that I mean that we are still sharing info
>> with each other and
>> > trying to
>> > keep these car alive with existing resources,
>> while with other
>> > orphaned
>> > makes businesses have sprung up to provide
>> support by way of
>> > remanufactured parts, cross referenced parts,
>> performance add-ons,
>> > etc.
>> > As an example, I've owned a '71 Opel GT since
>> 1978. The period
>> > through the 80's and early 90's was extremely
>> difficult. GM parts
>> > supply dried up, or was simply dumped. Cars
>> were disappearing rapidly
>> > as people just drove them into the ground and
>> generally didn't
>> > respect
>> > them or care for them to the extent they
>> perhaps should have. Then
>> > the
>> > Internet came along and brought the dedicated
>> enthusiasts together,
>> > businesses started up, rare parts were
>> manufactured in batch
>> > production
>> > runs, performance improvements were not only
>> discussed, tested, and
>> > proven, but the 3rd party businesses actually
>> began to sell them as
>> > kits. The result is a thriving community in
>> which this particular
>> > mark
>> > is now easier to own than it was 20 years ago.
>> (check out
>> > http://www.opelgt.com if you're interested).
>> FIAT, Alfa, Merkur -
>> > they
>> > have similar support channels.
>> >
>> > Maybe it's the difference between sports cars
>> and average family
>> > sedan?
>> > Owner's reluctance to spend money on a car
>> whose market value is so
>> > low?
>> > I don't know. It's a very strange dynamic in
>> the Peugeot community -
>> > at least here in NA. What IS good about the
>> current state of affairs
>> > is
>> > that those who know the value (as a vehicle,
>> not monetary investment)
>> > can usually end up with a sweet deal if they
>> are patient and look
>> > hard
>> > enough.
>> >
>> > Senen.
>> >
>> > Ruggeri, Robert wrote:
>> > > I dunno; AC not working.
>> > > I have a 75 sedan in nice shape so I'm glad
>> to see the price take
>> > > off.......
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> > > [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Steven Harris
>> > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:38 PM
>> > > To: Lance; Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [Peugeot-L] 504 on eBay
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > And well worth every single penny! Just wish
>> I
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Lance