[Peugeot-L] Re: how far drive w/knocking eng/HOW STRONG IS UR MOTOR???

From: Robert Bolton <rbolton_at_ev1.net>
Date: 12/10/05

Once in my dirt track car I threw the #4 rod through the side of the block and pan. After the thing cooled off I said "What the hell." and started it up to put it on the trailer. It ran fine except for a miss <G>. When I got it home I started it several times and drove it around. This is with no water or oil! The engine was a Chevy 307 (crap motor) One guy in the same race made five laps with 0 oil pressure.

Robert

On Dec 10, 2005, at 8:53 AM, peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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> 1. Re: how far drive w/knocking eng/HOW STRONG IS UR MOTOR???
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> Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:15:34 -0000
> From: "Francisco X. Romo" <xromo@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: how far drive w/knocking eng/HOW STRONG IS UR MOTOR???
>
> I once drove my 505 ZDJL engine for like 1000 miles with a knocking
> between 2-3k rpms. And I always tried to keep rpms above 3k so the
> knock would go away.
>
> Past that mileage the knock became waaaay louder, so upon dissasembly
> one rod bearing was totally gone, as was the crankshaft, yet you
> could still drive the car around....
>
> --- In peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Aube" <maube@i...> wrote:
>>
>> It depends on the engine knock. A cracked piston, a bad camshaft, a
> loose
>> rocker arm, a loose flywheel, a cracked flexplate or pulley will
> all permit
>> you to drive some distance without destroying the engine. A knock
> from a
>> connecting rod or main bearing though will not last more than a few
> feet.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gnarly 505stx" <gnarly505stx@y...>
>> To: <peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:03 AM
>> Subject: [Peugeot-L] how far drive w/knocking eng/HOW STRONG IS UR
> MOTOR???
>>
>>
>>> LOL
>>> this is funny
>>>
>>> i accidentally started a melee in the Alfa 75 group the other
> day. some
>> of them want to EXcommunicate me from life, not just from the alfa
> list.
>>>
>>> all i did was ask an innocent question. HOW FAR WOULD YOU GET
> AWAY WITH
>> DRIVING A CAR WITH A KNOCKING ENGINE?
>>>
>>> I had to get a car from where it was to somewhere about 25
> miles away.
>>>
>>> I think we can take it from the mortified responses that these
> people
>> are not accustomed to dealing with engines that are too staunch!
>>>
>>> UNLIKE US! because I was remembering when I had a 505 V6 with
> a knock.
>> I was always too horrified to drive the car at all, ever,
> anywhere. AND I
>> WANTED TO DRIVE IT SOOOO BADLY! Even at least as a field car or
> whatever.
>> Alas, I never did get to enjoy that car at all again. I sold it to
> a guy
>> who junks cars for $200. BUT HERE'S THE THING. He said he thought
> it was
>> too funky just to take to the crusher immediately...so he drove
> it! And he
>> drove it and he drove it around! AND HE POUNDED ON THE THING AS
> HARD AS HE
>> COULD FOR DAYS ON END...And then what? then he DROVE it to the
> crusher!
>>>
>>> UGG DARN LOL !
>>> okay, so the engine did have Mobil One 0w40 (or
> similar...dont think
>> Mobil 1 came in 0w50, 0w30 maybe, but it was something similar--
> as free
>> flowing at cold start as it could be, but thicker in
> general)...never the
>> less,
>>>
>>> in the alfa group, my question triggered story after story of
> guys
>> driving anywhere from half a mile to a few dozen feet with an oil
> light that
>> just came on or an engine noise that just started AND PROMPTLY
> TURNED THEIR
>> v-6 ALFA ENGINES INTO USELESS EFETTE PIECES OF (dis-similar)
> METALS... and
>> triggered vilification after vilification of me for being so stupid
> to even
>> ask such a question!
>>>
>>> WELL, the car in question was a VW, with 1.8 liter 4 cyl with
> 235,000
>> miles. It made it all 25 miles and more just fine, no problem!...
> well,
>> it's only a LITTLE noisier now than it was, but it never stalled or
>> anything...
>>>
>>> SO my question of how far you can get away with driving a
> knocking
>> engine depends greatly on the people you ask and how accustommed
> they are to
>> enjoying stout ROBUST engine designs! as i am from Volvo 4
> cylinders and
>> from Peugeots. and the V6 alfa is probably one of the least
> robust engines
>> around euro car circles. (in fairness, if i had asked the Alfa
> Spider group
>> the same thing, the answer probably would not have been so bad bc
> those
>> people are used to a tough little engine in that Alfa 4 cylinder
> block!)...
>>>
>>> SO I ASK IT HERE!
>>> Jay

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