AW: AW: [Peugeot-L] American plugs in a Japanese car

Hi Lance,

Of course I reclaimed the damaged plug at my local part-shop and I was told that Bosch will not overtake any costs. They argue that the press-tools get exchanged after f.e. 1.ooo.ooo plugs and it can always be that the 996.472nd plug is not properly pressed together - nobody cares..
To explain - the ceramic isolator is held inside the metal-corpus. The downer corpus with the coil is one piece, the upper metal-part with the Hexagonal is a kind of fixation for the isolator inside. You start to remove the plug and you suddenly turn free. The hexagonal sits inside your tool, the isolator is loose and the downer metal-corpus with the coil - still inside the head.
It was real luck that we could remove the broken plug even without removing the head..

Cheers

Jürgen

Jürgen Roterberg
Kreuzstr. 3
52379 Langerwehe/Germany
www.simcat.net

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Lance
Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Dezember 2007 02:00 An: Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Peugeot-L] American plugs in a Japanese car

Jürgen

Did you return the defective Bosch plugs?

Lance

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:33:16 -0600, Bagheera <bagheera@freenet.de> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> for Simca-Talbot-models I prefer to sell "Eyquiem"-plugs made in
France.
> At our 505 V6 and the 605 SV 3.o - only NGK.
>
> Peugeot kicked "Champion" out of their sortiment because they had
> trouble with their quality.
>
> I had bad experiences with Bosch-Plugs 2 times: The corpus teared
apart
> and I had to drill out the downer part of the plug out of the head of
my
> 505 Turbo, another time at my Matra Murena 1.6. Since then I never
again
> bought Bosch - and I also don´t sell them...
>
> Cheers
>
> Jürgen
>
> Jürgen Roterberg
> Kreuzstr. 3
> 52379 Langerwehe/Germany
> www.simcat.net
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] Im
> Auftrag von Ben Pender
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Dezember 2007 20:25
> An: Peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: RE: [Peugeot-L] American plugs in a Japanese car
>
> Guys,
>
> Personally, and professionally, I don't put 'Murican
> plugs into anything! NGK or Denso (Japanese) are the
> only things I install, except, of course, Lodge plugs
> for the Italian cars I service (and even there, NGKs
> work well). Bosch used to be good, but I believe that
> their quality has taken a nosedive over the past 5
> years, so I don't even bother with those anymore.
>
> Regards,
> Ben Pender
> Klassic Autos
> Older & Vintage Euro auto service, repair, and parts
> Madison, AL
> 256-489-9560
>
> --- "Nunez, George" <George.Nunez@bsci.com> wrote:
>
>> AND you shouldn't put American plugs in an Italian
>> car , and no American
>> plugs in a French car and no american plugs in a
>> German car, BUT you
>> can put Japanese plugs in any car and German plugs
>> in any car
>> As far as I know (someone correct me) there are no
>> american off the
>> shelf like a LODGE for Alfas, or Equiem (for MI16),
>> or a Bosch for the
>> 505 Turbo BUT Jap NGK have all styles except an
>> exact copy of the LODGE.
>>
>> Maybe Champion makes some specialty plugs but good
>> luck finding them.
>> George Nunez
>> 89 505 Turbo
>> 92 SW8
>> 80 505 SD
>> 66 Alfa Giulia
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of peugfan@juno.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 12:54 PM
>> To: peugeot-L@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [Peugeot-L] American plugs in a Japanese
>> car
>>
>>
>>
>> I am having a debate with a coworker. She insists
>> that you shouldn't put
>> American spark plugs in a Japanese car. She claims
>> to have had many
>> experiences that verify that absolute truth.
>>
>> She has a Chevy Prizm. It started running very
>> heavily this past Monday
>> when we had a day filled with rain, sleet, snow,
>> temperatures into the
>> 20s, and she ran through a deep puddle and almost
>> didn't get through.
>> On
>> Her mechanic changed distributor cap, rotor and
>> spark plug wires. They
>> found (surprise) water in the plug wells. But worst
>> of all, they found
>> that three of her four plugs were AMERICAN!!!!
>>
>> I'm telling her this is sheer nonsense. I think it
>> obviously resulted
>> from the big puddle and freezing temperatures (she
>> has no garage).
>>
>> Has anyone heard this nonsense. She says you can't
>> put American plugs in
>> Japanese cars (Prizm is a Toyota, of course), but
>> you can probably put
>> Japanese plugs in an American car.
>>
>> fs
>>
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>
>
> Regards,
> Ben Pender
> Klassic Autos
> Vintage European Automotive service, repair, and parts
> 121A Castle Drive
> Madison, AL
> 256-489-9560
>
>
>
>

-- 
Lance
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